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Michael Brown Shooting: Is 6 Shots Normal for Police Use of Force?
Christian Post ^ | 08/19/2014 | Samuel Smith

Posted on 08/19/2014 1:40:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

After a preliminary autopsy revealed that teenager Michael Brown was shot at least six times to the front of his body by a Ferguson, Missouri police officer on Aug. 9, a retired Baltimore City police officer who was involved in six individual use-of-force shootings in his 12-year law enforcement career, told The Christian Post Monday that, in general, six shots is not an overly excessive amount of shots for officers to take when trying to take down an assailant and protect themselves.

Robert Yamin, who was forced to retire on disability from the Baltimore City Police Department after being shot by an assailant with his own weapon, said that police officers must do whatever they can to ensure their safety once they get into an altercation and the assailant doesn't let up.

"It appears without having any real knowledge, just based on theory, that the officer was justified. The amount of bullets fired, you shoot whatever you need to stop the incident," Yamin said. "Until he stops coming at you. You keep shooting"

Yamin added that in split-second incidents, police don't cock their gun but instead fire all the way through meaning the shots will be less accurate because it requires more pressure to fire the weapon. When dealing with high intensity situations, it is in the officer's best interest to fire multiple times because these situations tend to happen so fast.

"The whole incident probably took place in two seconds, maybe three," Yamin speculated. "You can imagine what it would be like to go through four seconds of not knowing whether you are going to live or die, and it is all based on what you do in the next two or three seconds so you are making a decision, just split second."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: ferguson; michaelbrown; missouri
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To: expat2

“No, it also applies to double-action ‘automatic’ pistols.”

So you are saying “double-action ‘automatic’ pistols” have an external hammer which you can cock before each shot to get a lighter trigger pull but which is not automatically cocked when the gun is fired. What model of pistol is that?


101 posted on 08/19/2014 2:52:23 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Jeff Head

A scenario is that having just robbed a store Brown panicked, Brown shoved the car door knocking Wilson back into the car, then through the window Brown punched Wilson & then fled. A casing was recovered from the car, so more than this probably happened. This is purely speculation.


102 posted on 08/19/2014 2:52:34 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: SeekAndFind
So where were the riots in NYC when Amadou Diallo ( REALLY INNOCENT) was shot and killed?

Where were the riots when the police shot that unarmed guy in the Ohio Walmart or that guy in Los Angeles who was apparently face down and under control and still got shot in the back or that guy in New York that the police basically strangled? Of the four cases I think the Brown case is the weakest and yet everyone is protesting for him and tying ribbons on trees.

103 posted on 08/19/2014 2:57:36 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: EDINVA

he waived his fee but if the other side deposes him or calls him as a witness; THEY have to pay. (iow taxpayers)


104 posted on 08/19/2014 2:59:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: thorvaldr

Some do and some don’t. You don’t have to cock it with your thumb — in a double-action pistol, the first part of the trigger-pull cocks the pistol and the last part fires it. This means that (a) there is a long trigger pull, (b) the first part of the pull is a heavy pull to do the cocking, and this is the heavy pull that Yarmin was talking about in the OP.
Some auto pistols, both single and double, do have an external hammer you can cock if so inclined. And many revolvers do not have an external hammer, but use the first part of the trigger pull to cock it.


105 posted on 08/19/2014 3:00:42 PM PDT by expat2
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To: thorvaldr; Blood of Tyrants
I’m going to stick with saying that their “experts” comments on cocking before each shot to get a lighter trigger pull only applies to DA revolvers and not DAO pistols.

A S&W bodyguard .38 is a cock-able DAO revolver

106 posted on 08/19/2014 3:00:54 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Six is less than the 10 Diane Feinstein wants in a magazine. Wasn’t it Biden who said four was enough? If Wilson only had 4, he’d be on the slab today.


107 posted on 08/19/2014 3:06:09 PM PDT by bgill
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To: DoodleDawg

He was a chile! What difference does it make now?
/s


108 posted on 08/19/2014 3:06:43 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ancesthntr

All I’m saying is there is no confirmation from a credible source


109 posted on 08/19/2014 3:09:14 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: SeekAndFind

“Yamin added that in split-second incidents, police don’t cock their gun but instead fire all the way through meaning the shots will be less accurate because it requires more pressure to fire the weapon. When dealing with high intensity situations, it is in the officer’s best interest to fire multiple times because these situations tend to happen so fast.”

I don’t know what gun cop had but I suspect it had no hammer to cock.


110 posted on 08/19/2014 3:10:36 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: SeekAndFind

Police chief should invite Holder and some reporters to the range to get some empathy.


111 posted on 08/19/2014 3:14:39 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (In Times of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Becomes a Revolutionary Act.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Police chief should invite Holder and some reporters to the range to get some empathy.


112 posted on 08/19/2014 3:15:16 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (In Times of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Becomes a Revolutionary Act.)
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To: mrmeyer

I’m thinking that his head didn’t come down until he was shot six times. They weren’t all body shots from what I can tell.


113 posted on 08/19/2014 3:18:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: mrmeyer

A single 9mm round made Trayvon Martin room temperature.


Do you believe every situation is identical? Reality doesn’t work that way.


114 posted on 08/19/2014 3:19:48 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: DannyTN

Right - the officer has some broken bone around his eye or face which means the guy was actually attacking him.


115 posted on 08/19/2014 3:19:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: longtermmemmory; Nervous Tick


h/t Nervous Tick

116 posted on 08/19/2014 3:20:02 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Ancesthntr

wasn’t recoil from his gun - which, by the way, Wilson HAS to train with quite frequently.


As I understand it, most Cops don’t have nearly enough range time.


117 posted on 08/19/2014 3:23:21 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: SeekAndFind
The cop needs more time at the range.

He pulled darn near everthing left.

UNLESS he was trying not to kill the kid until the very end when he had no choice.

118 posted on 08/19/2014 3:26:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SkyDancer

I thought the same.


119 posted on 08/19/2014 3:27:20 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I don’t think anyone noticed that the cop shot up the right side of the victim consistently. I don’t think that was a mistake. I believe he was expecting him to pull a gun, and odds favor the victime being right-handed. I doubt that they would ever be able to determine the order of the shots, but I believe the were progressively up the arm and to the head as Brown kept charging


120 posted on 08/19/2014 3:28:04 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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