Reach out? What kind of progressive garbage is Lloyd peddling here?
The GOP has reached out to no one -— except illegals.
The GOP stabs conservatives -— irrespective of race.
GOP candidate Herman Cain was smeared by Dems. Obama’s campaign manager had a woman who lives in his apartment building smear Mr. Cain.
The GOP had a black running the RNC for outreach.
Been tried, doesn’t work even though MLK was a Republican because in his day all the bigots like George Wallace were Dems.
There are miles of difference between reaching out and pandering and it requires some reaching from the other side.
So suppose you do, then what? When almost none of the Republicans running for office are true conservatives?
The worst part is that this outcome probably reinforced in his mind that he was right.
Trying to get the chip off of White women’s shoulders would be much more advantageous as far as numbers go.
If Dr Ben Carson does run for president and makes headway as a candidate it would represent the opposite to everything Obama and Dems are. Not only blacks but all others will see a black conservative again and will have to reckon with their values and decisions. Like Herman Cain and Alan Keyes I would hate to see Dr Carson get so smeared and get dirt thrown on him because he’s a good and righteous man. We live in an evil world and too many people are blinded by the darkness and hate the light.
Hell, the GOP can't even seem to reach out to Whites, for heaven's sake!
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Principles like work hard, self determination, self responsibility, family responsibility (e.g. fatherhood), obeying the law, equality, and financial management are really expected to compete with:
victimhood passes that allow you to get away with all manner of crimes, welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, 0bammy phones, affirmative action, care/consequence free sex, social security for your "disability," medicaid, and being able to while away your day playing Xbox, or waiting line for the news iteration of Air Jordan, or doing drugs while some dumb honky puts in 8 plus overtime to pay for your lifestyle...........
Riiiiiiiight. Why I can just see them lining up to vote away all their handouts and gibsmedats in exchange for hard work for a living.
The majority of American blacks truly are blessed to be in this land of greatest opportunity.......the opportunity to be the recipients of the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world, and all so socialist #ssh#l#s can capitalize on their ignorance and laziness in exchange for votes and power.
That isn't going to change until the system collapses or enough of everyone else decides enough is enough and derails the gravy train. And the consequence of either of those courses of action - think LA and Ferguson riots combined and multiply by 10.....then spread that in every major city in nearly every state.
Conservatives are wasting their time, money, and efforts pandering and thinking otherwise.
Someone would have to teach the GOP how to be conservative before the GOP could extend a conservative hand to black people.
Never. Gonna. Happen. Don’t care what GOP does. Black America is 98% in pocket of Dims. Write off that demographic forever.
I know several well educated black folks, and do you know what got them excited a few weeks ago?
The swisher cigar video.
Know why?
To them, it blew up in the faces of the bigoted Ferguson police force. See, it clearly showed Brown purchasing the cigars, NOT stealing them.
How this is consistent with Brown roughing up the protesting proprietor remains a mystery.
Outreach to blacks has huge obstacles. They won’t be overcome anytime soon.
If reaching out means caving in to victimization and poor mouthing, then the RINO GOP can do it all they wish. What ever happened to people standing on their own two feet and getting what is deserved because of effort and incentive instead of race?
I have wondered the same thing that Lloyd mentions, and I think that I know how it happened that the Republicans have been neglecting Blacks.
It has been going on for many, many years. First, we should recall that before the Depression, most Blacks were Republican. They were largely blocked from voting in the South, and in the North (believe it or not) most of the big states were rather solidly Republican, so the GOP had not much need to reach out to the minorities.
The Democrats, on the other hand, worked like beavers in the North to get new constituents. The best yields they got were among the hordes of Irish immigrants, whom they corralled under the wings of big-city machines.
The Depression changed everything. FDR, unable to really do anything about the economic situation, and being a person of weak principles anyway, allowed himself to be turned by a coterie of left-wing advisors into a defender of the “little guy.” In other works, this pampered scion of a family rich through the opium trade, managed to pull this off (and parallel trickery has been pulled off since).
Blacks saw themselves not just as an ethnic group, but as poor. Forgetting by this time the primacy of freedom, they turned through the class appeal. Well, why not? Most of the intelligentsia of the day favored statist solutions for all problems: the Progressives (both Republican and Democrat), socialists, most European intellectuals, &c. A good proportion of whites fell also for the New Deal line. The Blacks have been cultivated and “played” ever since by the left.
I recall a Republican campaign rally of around 1960, at which I found myself talking to a Black couple. They complained to me that the Republican leaders never bothered to come to their neighborhood, but they knew why: the GOP did not expect to find much support there, and they felt that as a matter of short-term strategy, it was better to leave those neighborhoods alone, and hope for a low turnout there.
Well, there is one big thing which has changed now, and that is that the Black turnout in elections is high, often higher proportionately than any other group. There is no use hoping that they forget to vote. Paradoxically, this may eventually lead to a change in Black voting patterns, at least marginally. Also, TV ads reach everyone, so there is much less validity to the old GOP strategy.
How patient should the GOP be in waiting for some signs of alertness in the Black electorate? Well, I think forever would be justifiable. After all, it is a sad fact that most people do not vote their intellect: they are more influenced by group identity, by family traditions, and by propaganda. That is true of just about everyone. The second most solid voting block in the country is probably the Jewish vote, which rather consistently votes against its own interests. We are still waiting! Some very important Jewish intellectuals have become conservatives, and even leaders in the conservative intellectual movement. There are few better; and yet some 80% will continue to vote liberal-democrat, like zombies.
The ethnic identity factor is difficult to change, and often it is very irrational. Why should so many Irish vote for liberals? Why do more Italians vote Republican than do the Irish? Why do Asian-Americans support the Democrats overwhelmingly, when all their interests, and even their cultural predispositions, would seem to be conservative? Why should Poles and Slovaks vote Democratic: not all of them, but why any?
Politics is a difficult business, but we must continue the effort, or die off as a nation.
Here's one:
Now that America is burning in the flames of racial tension and polarization, it is crucial that Republicans/conservatives finally reach out to black America.
This is a non-sequitur if I've ever seen one. What the hell does one have to do with another?
Secondly, I would question any political agenda that includes "reaching out" to a minority group that is fading into obscurity on the national scene (which is an ironic statement to make, in this second term of America's first "black" president). Someone on this thread mentioned Bill Cosby, and I'll offer some insight here about the roots of his legendary public comments some years ago that were very critical of the black community.
Those comments were made at the 2004 NAACP convention that was organized largely as a celebration of the 50th anniversary of the U.S. Supreme Court's Brown v. Topeka Board of Education court decision. The specific context of his rant was that he was outraged at how little progress blacks had made in the U.S. since that decision, and he made particular reference to the pointlessness of desegregated schools for a race/culture in the U.S. that is openly hostile to the whole notion of education and self-improvement.
An underlying context of his rant, though, was that this 2004 NAACP convention was held right around the time that media reports were beginning to appear noting that, for the first time on record, Hispanics had officially supplanted blacks as the largest minority group in the United States. Cosby knew damn well that the age of perpetual victimhood for blacks was over, because now the nation had another larger, more politically powerful minority to serve as the beneficiary of all the pandering. The evidence for this that we've seen in recent years couldn't be more obvious. On the one hand you had Democrats like Senator Harry Reid and then-Senator Joe Biden commending Barack Obama for how "white" he looked and sounded, while at the same time you've got presidential contenders like George W. Bush -- and yes, Barack Obama himself -- speaking Spanish at campaign appearances.
My advice to conservatives is to focus your efforts on the message, and forget about who you're reaching. There is far more to be gained by promoting a principled conservative message to immigrant groups from Latin America, China, India, etc. Focusing your message on the people who we saw on television in Ferguson, Missouri is like looking for political support on Indian reservations.
Are blacks ready to accept no welfare and work for themselves, stay in school, stop fathering illegitimate children, stop being criminals, and lead a good life?