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It is not just nuns.

Number of priests and nuns in marked decline

‘Strong’ Catholic Identity at a Four-Decade Low in U.S.

1 posted on 09/01/2014 10:26:42 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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The hidden exodus: Catholics becoming Protestants

2 posted on 09/01/2014 10:30:40 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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>> To put it in greater perspective, that is a 72% decline since 1965.

Gee, I wonder what started happening right around 1965???
/sarc

3 posted on 09/01/2014 10:32:07 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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Progressive. Nuns? Well they can enjoy a different religion.

Well.....bye.


4 posted on 09/01/2014 10:32:24 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Yet would it surprise you that there are traditional orders that are enjoying great growth and after the massive seminary clean up by the Vatican, with a massive crackdown, better priests have been ordained.


5 posted on 09/01/2014 10:34:41 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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Toldya About the Lesbian Nuns in Leavenworth [Ann Barnhardt]
6 posted on 09/01/2014 10:35:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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Huh? What is Jo smoking? Where has she been? Watching Going My Way, The Song of Bernadette, The Bells of St Mary’s and Shoes of the Fisherman?
7 posted on 09/01/2014 10:35:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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From the article:

Sister Dianna Ortiz made headlines in 1989 when she abducted, tortured and raped while working as a teacher in Guatemala.

Doesn't anyone proofread anymore?

8 posted on 09/01/2014 10:36:19 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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If they are “progressive” and do not support church teaching then they ain’t nuns


9 posted on 09/01/2014 10:36:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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What this TIME reporter says is so full of holes and untruths that it would take a reasonable person probably a week to refute it all.

But I will just say a few things. First, the only new nuns are young and conservative. All the "progressives" are old and in dying orders. Who wants to join an order that is not really Catholic when you can just stay in the world and ply your progressive trade freely? So the only orders getting new recruits are the ones who follow Church teaching.

For more than four decades Sister Jeannine Gramick has been tireless in her fight for gay rights through her organization New Ways, despite coming under intense scrutiny from the Vatican.

Sister Jeanne Gramick has spent her entire life with her fist in God's face. She is the sole reason why the Vatican is cracking down on her and her minions.

The person who wrote this article is an idiot.

10 posted on 09/01/2014 10:38:06 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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I went to a Catholic Prep School in Mass. I was the product of a mixed marriage, LDS, Catholic. More importantly I was raised in the Inter Mountain States where my family emigrated a 150 years earlier.

I was shocked, the education was first rate, the political indoctrination was not. I went to schools in MT, WA, and ID and never saw any thing like it.

23 posted on 09/01/2014 10:59:47 AM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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“...the Church isn’t used to”

Time Magazine is in typical liberal media form here.

First, the Church doesn’t get used to things, people in 2,000 years, many Catholics included, have not gotten used to The Church.

This article is a push for the Vatican to get with it.

These nuns can do whatever they want, but when what they do is against Catholic teaching, they can simply call themselves something else, but not Catholic.

That’s all.

Vocations to the religious life are not dying out. There are vocations, and the ones which are growing are those in which there is a devotion and obedience to the faith.

Here’s something Time did not report, and will not report:

“Archbishop Chaput has said something similar in the past. The vocation crisis is actually those no longer answering the call to authentic marriage. He says that if that is fixed then religious and priestly vocations will increase. Basically religious and clerical vocations are often from strong, devout Catholic families so strengthening marriage and the family will lead to those that aren’t afraid to answer their vocation (what ever it may be).’


24 posted on 09/01/2014 11:01:05 AM PDT by stanne
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First off, when the MSM say Catholic nuns are “progressive” they are talking about a small group of aging liberals, leftists, lesbians and eccentrics who get continually quoted by the MSM. The MSM says they represent all the nuns in the country and the world. That is not the case.

This group strongly attacked Pope John Paul II and allied themselves with the homosexual network within the church in the from the 1970s until the present.

Most of the convents these nuns got control of closed and their orders greatly declined. Most of the Sisters under their supervision left the vocation.

There are a large number of retired nuns. They are supported by their orders and are no longer active.

There are orders that still follow and support the true teachings of the Catholic Church. These are active, strong and rapidly growing. They have no access to the MSM and most in the MSM and the country as a whole don't even know they exist.

For decades the Sisters served as teachers, nurses and many other professions. They provided great support the their church and their communities. They were devout, holy, caring women.

26 posted on 09/01/2014 11:05:15 AM PDT by detective
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35 posted on 09/01/2014 12:00:14 PM PDT by narses
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The Church isn’t used to women? How did little baby Catholics get here? (Yes, I know we are pagans until baptism)


39 posted on 09/01/2014 12:04:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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It's absolutely true that the population of Catholic nuns/sisters in the USA has declined drastically: from about 180,000 in about 1965, to less than 50,000 now. But it's not due to any imagined paranoid "Nunquisition." The downturn began right after the Second Vatican Council (1963-65) when a lot of the congregations, in an attempt to get modern, ditched their historic Constitutions, the common prayer life, and their apostolates (their work which they usually shared as a congregation, like running a chain of parish schools, a University or a Hospital), and started more individualized lifestyles and "careers," leading to what I'd call centrifugal disintegration.

I lived and worked with the Benedictine Sisters of Erie for 11 years as a Lay Associate, and I saw it happen up close and personal.

They're not in trouble for "working with the poor" or "being voices for the voiceless" or "serving the underprivileged" or any such thing. Women were leaving the convents in droves decades before the Vatican thought starting some "Apostolic visitation" --- an inquiry to find out what the heck's going on. It's because they deliberately divested themselves of their religious and vocation and identity, and then, surprise, there was no real reason to stay.

The sisters who still wear recognizable religious garb, who pray together on a regular daily prayer schedule, and who do the work they were founded to do (whether it's educating the handicapped or running a nursing home or religious publishing, evangelization, media work) --- are growing like kudzu.

Same thing with men's religious orders: the modernists are in rapid decline, the newer orders ("new faithful") are growing.


Sinsinawa Dominicans, largely post-Christian, semi-secularist feminists, avg. age probably about 75
They'll cease to exist within 10 years.


Nashville Dominicans (Dominicans of St. Cecilia), vibrantly Catholic, avg. ag roughly about 25
They are brilliant, growing faster than they can build new living space, and the future is theirs.

45 posted on 09/01/2014 12:36:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fides et Ratio.)
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Seven in 10 millennials consider themselves social activists, and 72% of them are eager to participate in a nonprofit young professional group.

But that's kind of hard to do when you spend all your free time barhopping and/or shacking up with your slacker boyfriend.

46 posted on 09/01/2014 12:38:02 PM PDT by madprof98
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I read the article at Drudge I think. Said the Nuns “want to work for an employee that values their work”

I thought that was strange...dont they want to work for God/Christ?

The article also referred to most Nuns as “progressive” Well I know what progressive means bin Liberal circles, God/Christ nor The Holy Spirit needs them anyway.

Progressive means they support gay marriage and murder of God`s unborn children.

And if they deny that, well just ask the US Nuns what party they support and there lies your answer.

Also it`s important to remember that a person could be a Nun a Priest or even Pope, and still not personally know Jesus or even be saved


54 posted on 09/01/2014 2:27:35 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Justice for Officer Darren)
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Today's generation of nuns are progressive women, two things the Church isn't used to

If she's talking about the nuns of the LCWR, most of them are grey haired old women who jumped on the feminist bandwagon and left their Faith behind. Younger women who want the religious life aren't bothering with the 'progressive' orders, because they are not looking for 'women's rights', they're looking for an intimate relationship with our Lord, something the old gray haired women don't have, and maybe never had. So the old orders are dying out, and soon, will be irrelevant.

76 posted on 09/01/2014 9:30:48 PM PDT by SuziQ
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If you think the news is bad now, a world without nuns would be a far worse place. The nuns that I know are much too humble to tout their achievements and all of the good they contribute to society, but make no mistake, they are an integral part of the fabric that holds our civilization together.

Who knew that nuns were an integral part of the fabric that holds society together?

Where would the world be without nuns? A far worse place?

Not likely.

Sheesh........ There's nothing that the Catholic church won't take credit for, is there?

79 posted on 09/02/2014 3:08:26 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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