Why Calling Rand Paul An Isolationist Is And Was Stupid

The Federalist ^ | 09/03/2014 | Mollie Hemingway

[SeekAndFind]

Various folks expressed surprise when the Associated Press wrote “Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky pounced Friday on President Barack Obama’s ‘we don’t have a strategy yet’ comments.”

Rick Perry, sure, but Rand Paul? Isn’t he supposed to be an “isolationist” as the AP claims in a later paragraph?

The broader debate pits those who favor the GOP's traditional muscular foreign policy — a group that includes Perry and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio — and those, like Paul and Cruz, who prefer a smaller international footprint. The so-called isolationist approach plays well with grassroots activists and a war-weary public, but worries many Republican officials and donors who prefer an aggressive American role in world affairs.

Oh please. Preferring a smaller international military footprint is hardly isolationism. It could simply indicate support for good old-fashioned statesmanship, propriety, conservatism, or even just an acknowledgement of limited human and financial resources. Certainly there are people whose idea of national defense is so limited that it might be called isolationism — and Paul is certainly closer to these people than Dick Cheney is. But people who believe in robust trade between nations, healthy use of diplomacy — but also not bombing most of the countries that have serious problems — these aren’t isolationists! And Rand Paul and others whose view of limited government extends to our foreign military entanglements are not accurately termed isolationists. Yes, it’s kind of tricky for AP writers and more bellicose members of the right to get this because Rand Paul is of course the son of Ron Paul and, well, sometimes his foreign policy views tend toward extremes.

[tacticalogic]

Is he a republican?

[ansel12]

Paul has been examined and rejected at FR, what do you expect to see here, praise and support for his liberalism and libertarianism as he rejects conservatism?

[DManA]

Only by a small cadre who see it as their mission to disrupt all discussion that touches on this guy.

Well go Paul yourself.

[ansel12]

I don’t know about cadre, but we know where the CO is on the question.

To: Starstruck
Yup. Only he wants to adapt, evolve and advance the homo agenda and open borders more than the older democrats were able to do. Sorry, young Turk Rand. Young comrade Obama beat you to it. Forward!
25 posted on 4/6/2014 6:03:30 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)

To: SeekAndFind
FURP! Rand Paul is randomly unreliable, ie, a liberaltarian squish.
4 posted on 06/26/2013 5:46:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)

[DManA]

So he as deputized you to shut down all conversation about him?

[ansel12]

Shutting down conversation about him? Who has done that?

I’m sorry, but if you push a libertarian liberal here, people will respond to you and correct you when you are wrong.

Is this going to be your thing now, going nuts over Rand Paul and playing victim like the romneybots have for 8 years as they pushed their loser?

[DManA]

Like, for example, this thread. You have completely hijacked it. You owe SeekandFind an apology.

[ansel12]

So you are one of those goofy Paul people that never really makes any sense, but posts a lot of jibes, distractions, and vacuous troll stuff.

[DManA]

I am an independent thinker who observes you doing what you accuse others of doing.

You don’t understand me? I am not surprised.

[ansel12]

RAND PAUL: DEMS SCARED I WILL RUN LEFT OF 'HAWK' HILLARY Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said in the 2016 Presidential election he would be able to attract independents and "even some Democrats" voters nervous about entering into a new Middle East war with a "gung-ho" President Hillary Clinton. Paul said “I think the American public is coming more and more to where I am and that those people, like Hillary Clinton, who—she fought her own war, 'Hillary’s war,' you know?" "And I think that’s what scares the Democrats the most: Is that in a general election, were I to run, there’s going to be a lot of independents and even some Democrats who say, ‘You know what? We are tired of war. We’re worried that Hillary Clinton will get us involved in another Middle Eastern war because she’s so gung-ho," he added. “If you want to see a transformational election in our country, let the Democrats put forward a war hawk like Hillary Clinton, and you’ll see a transformation like you’ve never seen," the Kentucky junior senator concluded.

Yep, he is floundering, and seeming desperate to find a political niche that he can make a living off of.

[Henry Hnyellar]

Small cadre is redundant.

[DManA]

That is not necessarily true.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cadre

[tacticalogic]

Rand Paul is a libertarian.

If it's more important to ask if he is libertarian than to ask if he is republican, then the drug war is more important than the republic.

[ansel12]

LOL, there you go, finally.

[tacticalogic]

LOL, there you go, finally.

Ben warned us about that crap.

[TexasCajun]

I keep checking for your reply to Rand Paul's own words I posted in #26.

I’m just sick of this spamming of every thread that mentions Paul. It’s not discussion, it’s just bad faith slimming.

I posted his own "slimming" words and you have no retort?

[SunkenCiv]

• Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel
• Rand Paul: Iran Wants Nukes Because It "Feels Threatened"
• Rand stands with Obama and Kerry on Iran
• Rand Paul: I don't think we should impose new Iran sanctions while negotiations are ongoing
• Rand Paul: Let's get this straight -- I'm not for containing Iran
• Rand Paul stands alone against Senate's 'preemptive war' resolution for Iran [Sept 2014]
• Rand Paul: It's America's Fault
• Rand Paul clarifies: No containment on Iran
• Rand Paul Calls for a Formal Declaration of War Against ISIS
• Sec. of State Kerry: U.S. Not Responsible for Chaos in Iraq, Libya
• NANCY PELOSI: IRAQ IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY
• Paul Blames Iraq Crisis on Bush Administration
• Rand Paul Defends Obama Against Dick Cheney
• Rand Paul: Ask Dick Cheney about Iraq War [2014]
• Rand Paul Defends President Obama From Dick Cheney
• Casting a Paul on American Strength: In defense and foreign policy, Rand Paul is a menace.
• Rand Paul Sounds Like a Democrat Criticizing GOP Rivals' Foreign Policy
• Rand Paul's Brother: "No Difference" Between Rand And My Dad On Ideology

Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]

[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]