Skip to comments.Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists.
"This is something that those who voted in Congress are going to have to live with," Paul told The Cable on Thursday. "The question is: How does their conscience feel now as they see photographs of tanks rolling over Egyptian civilians?"
As the official Egyptian death toll climbs to 638, the legislation the Kentucky libertarian is referring to was an amendment to suspend aid to Egypt until the country holds free and fair elections. Two weeks ago, Republicans and Democrats rejected it by an overwhelming 86-13 vote -- and top lawmakers in both parties protested it loudly.
"This amendment may be good politics, but it is bad policy," Sen. Bob Menendez, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said at the time.
"It would be a terrific mistake for the United States to send a message to Egypt: you're on your own," Republican Senator John McCain added back then. "I urge my colleagues to vote to table the Paul amendment."
The vote has already come back to haunt some lawmakers, such as McCain, who is now advocating a cancellation of aid to Egypt . . .
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If that's the case, then the US shouldn't have elected Obama.
We should stop funding them.
Because they’re taking a stand against Islamic terrorists who burn churches whenever they get a chance?
The Muslim Brotherhood is the grandfather of all of the terrorist movements in the mid east.
The Egyptian government is doing the right thing in shooting every single one of them.
However, where Paul is coming from: The Paul family are against any kind of foreign aid. Period.
And Paul may be right.
However, he is giving the impression that he thinks that the Muslim Brotherhood is/are innocent protesters being killed by a bad bad Egyptian army.
I am perfectly fine with MB getting iced by the Egyptian Army
It is no wonder the world hates us.
I hope obama’s golf game is going well.
They sure goofed up when they thought they could pick out good wicked people.
I totally agree with what you have posted. And I am starting to see the point in no Foreign Aid.
I bet the Egyptions are pissed the Muslims take credit for the varying forms of mathematics that preceded the birth of Christ.
This Egyptian debacle is giving traction to Rand Paul’s neoisolationist positions. Hard pressed Americans are beginning to wonder if the foreign entanglements are worth the material and human sacrifices. This of course sets the stage for a battle for the sol of the Republican party with the neoconservatives. It will be interesting.
I agree, but I think the whole of Egypt will destabilize despite the Army’s best efforts. Hope not, but the signs are not good.
Rand is a fool.
He knows nothing of what’s going on in Egypt. He’s as stupid as his stupid crazy father. He’s taking the WRONG FREAKING SIDE! His reason for not giving money to Egypt is because he thinks the miltiary is bad and the MB are the good guys.
Makes me want to puke.
Anyway, Putin’s helping Egypt now and el-Sisi won’t take 0bastard’s call, so US influence is over, anyway. The Egyptians know full well that 0bastard’s been supporting the Mozlem Brotherhood and the MB has a very narrow small support in Egypt.
Good quote from Sultan Knish, saw a link to this article on a thread I’m trying to find, it should be posted on FR, great article:
The GOP may be able to reconcile itself to a Rand Paul, sacrificing its national security plank to keep its socially liberal values and free trade core intact, but not to a Ted Cruz who represents something far closer to its populist base. Give the Elephant Party someone it can agree with on illegal alien amnesty, sending jobs to China and shrugging at all the Bible Belt stuff... while winning back the approval of the Tea Party and it can work with that.
Billions of dollars in aid to Egypt has been a questionable practice we’ve indulged in ever since Jimmy Carter, if not before.
It would be good if we could cut back on that aid—and on most other foreign aid.
But we sure as hell shouldn’t do it at this particular moment, because the Generals have followed the wishes of most Egyptians and thrown the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood out of office. Or because the generals are shooting terrorists who are busy raping and murdering and burning innocent people, including Coptic Christians.
If anything, we should be supporting the Generals at this point. But of course the Left Wing Press, the Left Wing White House, and the Left Wingers in Europe are all in favor of supporting Muslim terrorists.
The hell with that.
Hmmm. Aren’t these guys clearing out the Muslim Brotherhood? We should probably increase the aid if it is going for pest control..
Link to the Live Egypt thread, best info on the internet about what’s really going down in Egypt, dedicated news hounds and freeper translations from Arabic.
It looks as though the mil, with the support of the Egyptian people, is cleaning house.
The muslim brotherhood will come out of this even stronger.
Mubarak was smart enough to refrain from random killing of a major portion of the population. They are the largest single faction of the country and nothing will happen without them. Many of the brotherhood types have family who have been on the government side but that will change pretty fast as their brotherhood family members are killed.
The interim VP has already stepped down and he was Obama’s choice immediately following the fall of Mubarak. Elbaradei is the man to watch. He’s the “moderate” muslim face of the brotherhood who also happens to be a globalist. Unfortunately he’s already threatened war with Israel.
I wouldn’t count on them being cleaned out.
Umm, the Egyptian military are trying to stop RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORISTS who want to kill Christians. Jeez, Rand. Why don’t you spend more time condemning the terrorists who are tearing Egypt apart.
Thanks for the link.........horrific images.
As if. The establishment are Christie/Jeb all the way.
You are right, such groups never really go away but if you stomp hard enough you can get many of them.
And you can stomp all you want, they’re still muslim animals on both sides and will just elect another muslim animal at the first opportunity.
No we should stop the funding because the law says if there is a military coup all US funds are withheld.
I think this is stupid geopolitics and that law should not be on the books but....
THE ISSUE NOW IS THE OBAMA REGIME IS LAWLESS AND NO EXCUSE SHOULD BE GIVEN THEM FOR DISREGARDING THE RULE OF LAW IN THE US.
THAT IS WHAT WILL COST US THE US, WHO CARES ABOUT EGYPT???
We did enough damage with the ousting of Mubarak and Egypt is toast. We shouldn’t do any more damage. Besides, aid we give them today will just go to the Brotherhood when this current government falls.
Have you read the Live Egypt thread?
CHeck it out if you haven’t (or haven’t lately).
There was no military coup in Egypt.
The military stepped in when tens of millions of Egyptians signed a petition to oust Mursi and then took to the streets for over a month.
You don’t know Egyptian history very well. The Army has been killing these cockroaches for 80 years. The MB promised to behave in the 80s after they got stomped on again. That’s how Al Qaeda was formed.
The MB will not go away but their influence will go back to the peasant villages and out of the cities. The generals know what they are doing.
The MB in charge is suicide.
Sen. Paul should not be so reflexive. Former ambassador John Bolton can give him an education of what is going on in Egypt now.
Unless you want another IRAN in North Africa you better support the Egyptian generals who oppose the Muslim Brotherhood and are trying to restore representative government as they had before Obama.
The MB is the mother of all current political Islamic groups. They are evil to the core and the Egyptian new gov and mil is doing the right thing. And they have evidence that 0bastard was funding the MB in Egypt.
Rand and McAss want the MB to rule the ME.
They WILL lose!
Have you read the Live Egypt thread?
All your assertions are not factual. The MB is not the single largest faction of the country. The MB support is narrow, maybe 10% at present.
Rand is even worse than I thought he was, and I already thought he was a slimeball nutcase like his Pa.
Siding with MB is really insanely evil.
Absolutely - you have to see this thread.
Ron Paul’s little boy sides with the Mozlem Brotherhood.
I’m just going to laugh at you. Right off the top because I’m not impressed with a freeper with a muslim sounding name who comes out of nowhere to set the record straight (you have zero credibility with me)
The dumb ass egyptians elected Morsi and will just turn around and elect another just like him like muslim scum always do.
I really couldn’t care less what happens in that litter box and don’t want my tax dollars going to the cat turds that inhabit it.
The MB are “anti-government activists”? So burning churches, cutting heads off, throwing people off buildings etc., etc. is now classified as “activism”? Got it.
“Hes taking the WRONG FREAKING SIDE”
It looks like you are the fool here.
Why the hell do you want to take sides in the Egyptian civil war?
Just please tell me how is any of this in the US interest.
Getting involved in this will only bring their civil war here. Just like it did before.
I’m far from being an isolationist and neither is Rand. But getting involved in these civil wars is just plain stupid. Nothing good will come out of it.
Okay, so you know more than anyone who pays close attention to Egyptian news for months and some who understand Arabic.
Apparently you’ve gone entirely nuts.
Rand is siding with the MB. Why didn’t he object to $ to Egypt when Morsi was pres? THe claim that military tanks are running over citizens is MB propagana. If he started in with “no $ for Egypt” when Morsi was in, then he might be taken seriously.
But he’s siding with Mozlem radicals, just like his Pa.
I just don’t want to spend my money on the new FR fantasy of “Good Muslims” LOL
While I agree with crip about not funding them we do not need to stop funding now or for the reasons that they kicked morsi out and are killing mb and al qaeda terrorists. Those terrorists killed ONE HUNDRED POLICE ARMED ONLY WITH TEAR GAS... and the can of whupass that the Military has opened on them is deserved in spades. Kill them all boys and stack them like cord wood!
Mubarak was smart enough to refrain from random killing of a major portion of the population.
Who deposed Mubarak?
I don’t think he was so smart.
Read up on the history of the Brotherhood and you will be convinced that there will never be “peace” until the Caliphate.
The Paul family does not support aid to ANY nation.
Israel, England, Egypt, Jordon.....
There is no distinction.
“Why didnt he object to $ to Egypt when Morsi was pres?”
He did DUmmy. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
Rand Paul is against giving taxpayer money to Egypt and he doesn’t care who is in power. Why the hell do you want to spend money killing civilians in Egypt? That makes no sense ar all. The muslim brotherhood is their problem.