Posted on 09/11/2014 7:25:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
If all else fails
Give me a workable plan....A workable plan...let’s see...Islam is all about murder, mayhem, threats and symbolism (hit the two buildings that epitomize the financial center of Western culture, do it on a day we revere for some obscure reason), so I suggest this as a workable plan. Install a leader with REAL gonads. HAVE HIM CALL all THE LEADERS OF the middle East and tell the “The civilized nations of the world are fed up with your barbarity and we are putting at least three nuclear bombs in the air 24 hours a day/ 7 days a week and 365 days a year. If the West is attacked in ANY way, militarily, financially, or through terrorist actions, we will drop the first on Mecca, no warning. If you don’t rein in your shit, the second goes to Medina. If you need more convincing, Qom sounds ripe to us. Thank you for your rapt attention. You have work to do. Goodbye.” Rids us of millions of them and rids them of their symbolic icons.
OK so you’ve hypothetically destroyed 3 important Islamic cites and hundreds of millions of people.
So far so good .... now ... have you destroyed “radical Islam”?
Did you get rid of the 1/3 of Muslims who are fundamentalists or radicals (the theory of the person I asked for a plan from) and caused the rest and all their descendants to never ever be radical?
Does that get rid of radical Islam?
Oh by the way ... Pakistan has those too.
I believe could be mitaken) once they were shocked to the core and lost their ‘symbols’, they might be open to entering the civilized world. Reluctantly for a few hundred years, but what the Hey?
Why is it you find a workable plan inconceivable when they do not, and indeed have made great strides in accomplishing their goals?
Frankly, I have serious doubts about your abilities and qualifications to evaluate a "practical" plan even if one were presented to you.
It seems to me a modified version of those used to pacify the Axis powers or the British pacification of India would be perfectly workable.
Was India a threat to Britain?
Ok, I’ll bite, what were the pacification plans?
How is that relevant? The point is the British pacified the Indians in the Indian's own country.
Ok, Ill bite, what were the pacification plans?
That is an exercise for the student (I.e., YOU).
The broader point is these are both examples of successful pacification of HUGE populations with radically different cultural mores.
You are proof that some people can not be reasoned with.
They probably don't have many of these.
Japan is a country. A country is not an idea.
We are not going to kill Islam. We can keep it at bay, and try to tame it. But we won’t kill it.
OK I researched it and it’s basically what we’ve been (unsuccessfully) doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. It’s also what our generals claimed did not work in Vietnam.
Muslims are many in number and spread over a vast amount of territory from the Philippines, to Malaysia, China and the Mongol steppes and many parts of what was Russia, India Pakistan the middles east and most of north Africa ... and this is not even counting the diaspora over the rest of the globe
We’re going to go into all that area (with our small 250 million population) and basically run all the institutions and sort out their people and isolate the ‘radicals’ from the rest, set up institutions and governments and direct trade?
I don’t think that we can by any stretch of the imagination be considered a practical plan. Even the Chinese with their vastly larger population is not trying anything on that scale.
Yes, we can nuke each other for as long as that lasts .... but they have more people and can make more people faster than we can).
And as another poster here as astutely pointed out, you cannot kill an idea.
Japan was an oligarchy ruled by an emperor god, quit changing the subject.
The point was the notion that the Emperor was god and all the people were ready to fight to the death rather than surrender was certainly a pretty strong ingrained idea. They didn't have to die, because MacArthur was a wise military governor.
Michael Corleone was full of it when he ducked out of Cuba, it was American money and training that financed Castro's Revolution.
I read a very intelligent post by you on another thread, see if you can bring some of that to this discussion.
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