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Cardinal Dolan: Explaining My Decision to Serve as Grand Marshal
http://www.archny.org ^ | September 17, 2014 | Cardinal Timothy Dolan

Posted on 09/18/2014 8:49:13 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Explaining My Decision to Serve as Grand Marshal

I haven’t been in this much hot water since I made the comment, right after I arrived as your archbishop five-and-a-half years ago, that Stan Musial—my boyhood hero of my hometown St. Louis Cardinals—was a much better ballplayer than Joe DiMaggio!

Now I’m getting as much fiery mail and public criticism over my decision to accept the honor of Grand Marshal of this year’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade. According to the critics, I should have refused, due to the Parade Committee’s decision to allow a group of self-identified Gays of Irish ancestry to march in the parade with their own banner.

As with Stan Musial, I’ll stand by my decision. However, enough of you have courteously expressed some confusion and dismay, that, as your pastor, I owe you an explanation. Let me try.

For one, the decision to change the parade protocol was not mine. The archbishops of New York have never been “in charge” of the parade. Although my predecessors and I have always enjoyed friendly cooperation with the Parade Committee—and still do—and deeply appreciate the identity of the Parade as a celebration purely of Irish heritage, intimately linked to the Catholic Faith, we’ve never had a say in Parade policy or the choice of the Grand Marshal. Nor did we expect or want one!

So, in the current “brawl,” (they have been hardly rare in the Parade’s grand 253-year history!), I did not make the decision! You will recall that I in the past often expressed support for the former policy—that the only banners and identification to be carried was that the group was Irish—and that I found it logical and fair. To those who charged that the policy was “anti-Gay,” I often observed that no one person, Gay or not, was excluded from the parade. This was simply a reasonable policy about banners and public identification, not about the sexual inclinations of participants.

I did not oppose the former policy; nor did I push, condone, or oppose the new one. While the Parade committee was considerate in advising me of the change, they did not ask my approval, nor did they need to.

However, I admit that, for most folks, this is not the reason they are upset with me, and this brings us to point two. Many of you, while acknowledging that the decision to change policy was not mine, feel strongly that I should protest it, publicly condemn it, no longer support the Parade, and refuse the invitation to serve as Grand Marshal.

While a handful have been less than charitable in their reactions, I must admit that many of you have rather thoughtful reasons for criticizing the committee’s decision: you observe that the former policy was fair; you worry that this is but another example of a capitulation to an “aggressive Gay agenda,” which still will not appease their demands; and you wonder if this could make people think the Church no longer has a clear teaching on the nature of human sexuality.

Thank you for letting me know of such concerns. I share some of them.

However, the most important question I had to ask myself was this: does the new policy violate Catholic faith or morals? If it does, then the Committee has compromised the integrity of the Parade, and I must object and refuse to participate or support it.

From my review, it does not. Catholic teaching is clear: “being Gay” is not a sin, nor contrary to God’s revealed morals. Homosexual actions are—as are any sexual relations outside of the lifelong, faithful, loving, lifegiving bond of a man and woman in marriage—a moral teaching grounded in the Bible, reflected in nature, and faithfully taught by the Church.

So, while actions are immoral, identity is not! In fact, as the Catechism of the Catholic Church reminds us, people with same-sex attraction are God’s children, deserving dignity and respect, never to be treated with discrimination or injustice.

To the point: the committee’s decision allows a group to publicize its identity, not promote actions contrary to the values of the Church that are such an essential part of Irish culture. I have been assured that the new group marching is not promoting an agenda contrary to Church teaching, but simply identifying themselves as “Gay people of Irish ancestry.”

If the Parade Committee allowed a group to publicize its advocacy of any actions contrary to Church teaching, I’d object. As Cardinal John O’Connor remarked, we do not change the Creed—and I’d add, the Ten Commandments—to satisfy political correctness.

In fact, the leaders of the Parade Committee tried to be admirably sensitive to Church teaching. They worried that the former policy was being interpreted as bias, exclusion, and discrimination against a group in our city, which, if true, would also be contrary to Church teaching. While they were quick to acknowledge that, in reality, the policy was not unfair at all, they were also realistic in worrying that the public perception was the opposite, no matter how often they tried to explain its coherence and fairness.

I found their sensitivity wise, and publicly said so.

If, in doing so, I have shown an insensitivity to you, I apologize.

I share the hope of the organizers that the March 17th parade will be loyal to its proud heritage of celebrating Irish identity, culture, and contributions—all a beautiful part of Catholicism— thus bringing this great community together in unity and festivity, and look forward to leading it as Grand Marshal.


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"and I look forward to leading it as Grand Marshal" BRAVO!

Notice how the very first sentence he minimizes the seriousness of the subject, comparing it with baseball. Notice how he minimizing it again, calling it the current "brawl" in a 253 year history of the parade. Notice how he says actions (didn't use the word homosexual actions) are immoral, identify is not, and ends the sentence with a big exclamation point! It's disgusting.

1 posted on 09/18/2014 8:49:13 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
I haven’t been in this much hot water since I made the comment, right after I arrived as your archbishop five-and-a-half years ago, that Stan Musial—my boyhood hero of my hometown St. Louis Cardinals—was a much better ballplayer than Joe DiMaggio! Now I’m getting as much fiery mail and public criticism over my decision to accept the honor of Grand Marshal of this year’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade. According to the critics, I should have refused, due to the Parade Committee’s decision to allow a group of self-identified Gays of Irish ancestry to march in the parade with their own banner. As with Stan Musial, I’ll stand by my decision. However, enough of you have courteously expressed some confusion and dismay, that, as your pastor, I owe you an explanation. Let me try....

He could have summarized it by just saying "I like boys."

2 posted on 09/18/2014 8:53:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: NKP_Vet

Cardinal,unless you clearly state during whatever remarks you make that homosexual acts are *always* sinful then your presence suggests approval.


3 posted on 09/18/2014 8:54:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: NKP_Vet

There is no “honor” if you go along with homosexual activism. Shame on you. Disgusting. You’re a social whore.


4 posted on 09/18/2014 8:55:13 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: NKP_Vet
From my review, it does not. Catholic teaching is clear: “being Gay” is not a sin, nor contrary to God’s revealed morals. Homosexual actions are—as are any sexual relations outside of the lifelong, faithful, loving, lifegiving bond of a man and woman in marriage—a moral teaching grounded in the Bible, reflected in nature, and faithfully taught by the Church.

So, while actions are immoral, identity is not! In fact, as the Catechism of the Catholic Church reminds us, people with same-sex attraction are God’s children, deserving dignity and respect, never to be treated with discrimination or injustice.

For the Cardinal to attempt to try and find a difference here is laughable. Who does he think he's fooling? He is simply splitting hairs in an effort to serve as Grand Marshall.

5 posted on 09/18/2014 8:55:28 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Interesting how he capitalizes the word “gay”. He shouldn’t even be using that word, let alone elevating it with a capital.

Atrocious is not too strong a word for this drivel.


6 posted on 09/18/2014 9:00:01 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Well Cardinal, what about that whole “watchman on the wall” thing? See Ezekiel 3:16-21


7 posted on 09/18/2014 9:02:09 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: NKP_Vet

It is very difficult for this faithful Catholic to follow the faith when many US Catholic bishops do not appear to uphold its teachings.


8 posted on 09/18/2014 9:05:01 AM PDT by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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This is the kind of equivocation that will kill the Church. “Being ‘gay’ is not a violation of Church teachings” but advocating acts contrary to God’s law is.

Is declaration of homosexuality the same as promotion of homosexuality? In any real sense, considering the very public venue, the answer is yes. These queers are marching to celebrate their homosexuality as much as their Irish heritage. And celebrating homosexuality celebrates what makes it homosexuality — namely, homosexual ACTS.

So, notwithstanding the good cardinal’s flimsy apologia, allowing this group to march IS endorsing behavior that is a most grievous sin.

He just doesn’t have the courage to admit that he gave in to the queer lobby. He is unworthy of his cassock.


9 posted on 09/18/2014 9:06:25 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: NKP_Vet

That’s some pretty circuitous logic.
Cardinal, tend to your flock, there are wolves about!


10 posted on 09/18/2014 9:13:49 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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You’re a social whore

Nailed it.

11 posted on 09/18/2014 9:16:30 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: NKP_Vet

This is the saddest thing that has happened in Irish American history.


12 posted on 09/18/2014 9:17:28 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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What a pathetic, self-serving pile of excuses - I would like to ask him if the activist gays marching in the parade with their flags have renounced homosexual sex.

He’s either a fool or a coward... or both.


13 posted on 09/18/2014 9:20:12 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Responsibility2nd

“From my review, it does not. Catholic teaching is clear: “being Gay” is not a sin, nor contrary to God’s revealed morals. Homosexual actions are—”

You’re right, Responsibility2nd, because nowhere does it say there are NO homosexual actions in this group. In fact, the assumption is always that there is homosexual action in such groups.


14 posted on 09/18/2014 9:22:18 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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So, while actions are immoral, identity is not!

What about pride in that identity, Cardinal? That's where you go off the rails.

No spine at all when you seek to be everyone's jolly buddy.

15 posted on 09/18/2014 9:24:33 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: NKP_Vet

Is he familiar with the word “Imprimatur”?


16 posted on 09/18/2014 9:26:29 AM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: conservativehistorian
It is very difficult for this faithful Catholic to follow the faith when many US Catholic bishops do not appear to uphold its teachings.

Follow Christ instead of a religion.
17 posted on 09/18/2014 9:29:51 AM PDT by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: NKP_Vet

His logic only works if it was a group of professed celibate gays and we all know that is not the case.


18 posted on 09/18/2014 9:30:50 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: NKP_Vet; Alex Murphy

I can’t stand that man and I think he’s doing enormous damage to the Church. I don’t think he particularly “likes boys,” but what he doesn’t seem to be able to get through his thick Democrat head is that any group that officially identifies itself as “gay” and marches under a banner identifying itself as that (and several other letters) is not simply marching like everybody else, with their own problems, sins, whatever.

It’s saying that it is good to be homosexual, and that being a homosexual is one’s primary identity. Homosexuals have always marched in the parade, as have all sinners, and nobody kept them out. But should we now have a group marching under a banner that says, “NYC Child Molesters” or “Wife Beaters” or some other such thing?

Dolan is a complete and utter fool, and a dangerous one at that.


19 posted on 09/18/2014 9:32:15 AM PDT by livius
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To: NKP_Vet

I wonder if he would still march if their were Irish adultery, wife beating, or cannibal groups. After all, can’t just assume they are promoting or actually doing any of those things. They’re just Irish folks who happen to have these inclinations and specifically identify this way.

Or something.

Freegards


20 posted on 09/18/2014 9:35:22 AM PDT by Ransomed
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