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Doctors: 'Irresponsible' to send troops to 'combat' Ebola
WND.com ^ | September 18, 2014 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 09/20/2014 8:35:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A real-life horror story is playing out in Africa as Ebola spreads, and President Obama’s decision to send 3,000 troops to Liberia to combat the virus could very well put Americans at risk of contracting the deadly illness at home, some health experts say.

According to the World Health Organization, at least 4,985 people have contracted Ebola and at least 2,461 have died. Several doctors have fallen ill with Ebola, and two of them have died. New reports indicate a Doctors Without Borders staff member has contracted the virus in Liberia and will be evacuated to France for treatment.

“You can see that these doctors, who are highly trained people, got themselves infected,” said Dr. Lee Hieb, former president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. “So sending troops into an area, if they’re dealing one-on-one with a patient, they’re not going to be able to protect themselves very well. It’s not easy to [prevent transmission], because you get tired and you get careless and you make some simple mistakes. All it takes is one virus particle.”

Dr. Hieb said quarantine measures should be taken to control the outbreak and prevent Ebola from coming to America.

“You don’t get Ebola from Europe,” she told WND. “You get Ebola from Africa. And it’s a really simple formula: Don’t let people fly to America if they’ve been to areas where there’s an outbreak. When there’s an outbreak, stop air [traffic] flow.”

Hieb added, “If they’re going to use the troops to do population control, which is one of the ways you contain it, basically you just don’t let anybody out. You’d make a ring around where it is, and you’d quarantine the area.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: africa; ebola; eboladoctors; ebolaoutbreak; ebolatroops; health; military
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To: DoughtyOne

Exactly. And, if Romney had been elected, we would be headed in the same direction, despite what the GOPe plants on FR say.


101 posted on 09/21/2014 6:09:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: ZULU

Your scenario sounds spot-on.

And reading your words made me see an additional consequence. After these troops return home, even those who are not infected will be feared by civilians and effectively shunned. Then, anyone in a military uniform will be treated the same way. Another goal of the progressives achieved.


102 posted on 09/21/2014 6:14:39 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Empireoftheatom48
Sending troops is incredibly STUPID!

Agreed! But remember...Osama Obama went to Harvard Law School.If he had been smart enough,and ethical enough,he might have attended Harvard *Medical* School and then he might have some credibility on this subject.

103 posted on 09/21/2014 6:16:00 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: dforest

Thank you! Already saw my error and corrected it. (I’m still trying to get a grasp on this stupidity)


104 posted on 09/21/2014 6:18:50 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
What better way is there to put our military out of action than to have entire ships and bases under quarantine and then not combat ready because of loss of personnel - not to mention having the disease raging through our military families? The military is a "team" and riddling it with a deadly disease is one way to put it out of operation. If this gets loose on a base, it will be weeks and probably months before the quarantine could be safely lifted.

It's a win-win for the Marxist Muzzie in the White Hut. He can lock the military down and destroy it at the same time.

105 posted on 09/21/2014 6:24:27 AM PDT by Gritty (ISIS is Islam. It is the naked religion. It is Mohammed. - Daniel Greenfield)
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To: jospehm20

It is not stupidity; it is Obama’s diabolical goal to destroy our arm forces, he despises our soldiers.


106 posted on 09/21/2014 7:04:33 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Military are designed for one thing only - kill the enemy. They can be very effective at that, or cordoning areas off if you watch the movies, but they are not trained for this type work. Obozo hates the military. My AF retirement was signed by Clinton and will never grace my wall. My upcoming DOD civilian retirement gave me a choice of any living president so I requested Bush sign it. Too bad the Gipper ain’t around...Hell, I’d even go for Ollie North.


107 posted on 09/21/2014 7:10:07 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Viennacon

Exactly!


108 posted on 09/21/2014 7:12:16 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t even play a doctor on TV and I can figure out that sending combat troops to fight Ebola is insane. Its surreal. The Pentagon needs to put a stop to it. They will all just catch Ebola. That’s horrible enough and then they will bring it back here. If I was a parent of child in the military I would be sceaming.


109 posted on 09/21/2014 7:16:40 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
What?!? The Protector of Science in America, himself subjected to a teachable moment?
[Zero]’s decision to send 3,000 troops to Liberia to combat the virus could very well put Americans at risk of contracting the deadly illness at home... “You can see that these doctors, who are highly trained people, got themselves infected,” said Dr. Lee Hieb, former president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. “So sending troops into an area, if they’re dealing one-on-one with a patient, they’re not going to be able to protect themselves very well. It’s not easy to [prevent transmission], because you get tired and you get careless and you make some simple mistakes. All it takes is one virus particle... You don’t get Ebola from Europe,” she told WND. “You get Ebola from Africa. And it’s a really simple formula: Don’t let people fly to America if they’ve been to areas where there’s an outbreak. When there’s an outbreak, stop air [traffic] flow... If they’re going to use the troops to do population control, which is one of the ways you contain it, basically you just don’t let anybody out. You’d make a ring around where it is, and you’d quarantine the area.”
Thanks Tolerance Sucks Rocks.
110 posted on 09/21/2014 7:42:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cva66snipe

I guess you saw post 76, Rickover hand picked him.


111 posted on 09/21/2014 7:43:23 AM PDT by ansel12
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Didn’t check to see if anyone posted this yet (I was just looking for pictures to see if she was not guilty), found out she’s the Libertarian Party candidate for governor in Iowa.

http://www.hieb2014.org/


112 posted on 09/21/2014 7:44:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

These 3,000 are combat troops?


113 posted on 09/21/2014 7:45:22 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: trebb
Military are designed for one thing only - kill the enemy.

Then how do you explain that the Army is also expert in disease research, cures, and helping in disease and emergencies, and maintains a strong international presence in WHO operations and medical research, and receives much assistance from the Navy in it's global medical operations in infectious diseases?

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114 posted on 09/21/2014 7:54:21 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
Then how do you explain that the Army is also expert in disease research, cures, and helping in disease and emergencies, and maintains a strong international presence in WHO operations and medical research, and receives much assistance from the Navy in it's global medical operations in infectious diseases?

Are you assuming these are the folks being sent vs. "other" troops, or have you seen it mentioned? I haven't seen any indication that we are sending experts in medicine/disease (could have missed it), and most of the stories surrounding it do not seem to think this is the case or they would not be so outspoken against it.

Will grant that not all troops are combat troops, but the sense I have been getting is that many of those who will be sent are not "designed by training" for the role they will be filling.

115 posted on 09/21/2014 8:00:32 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Don’t let people fly to America if they’ve been to areas where there’s an outbreak. When there’s an outbreak, stop air [traffic] flow.”

We don't need millions of Americans to die of Ebola before figuring out that the above comment is correct.

Oh, and NO troops.

Africa has plenty of 'boots' of their own - on the ground and living there - to fight Ebola.

Is Obama saying black Africans aren't smart enough to fight ebola if we give them supplies and cash to pay the wages of workers? Is that why he wants to send white soldiers? Really, is Obama saying Africans are too stupid to handle this?

116 posted on 09/21/2014 8:06:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Great causes begin as movements, becomes a business, then degenerates into a racket.Eric Hoffer)
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To: GreenHornet

BTTT.


117 posted on 09/21/2014 8:14:55 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Cvengr

The Army is expert in Biosafety and Level 4, and spread it’s knowledge to other agencies, such as the CDC.

“”At the request of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a small team of scientists at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, Ft. Detrick, Md., has trained its microscopes on severe acute respiratory syndrome.”

The United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID; pronounced: you-SAM-rid) is the U.S Army’s main institution and facility for defensive research into countermeasures against biological warfare. It is located on Fort Detrick, Maryland and is a subordinate lab of the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command (USAMRMC), headquartered on the same installation.
USAMRIID is the only U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) laboratory equipped to study highly hazardous viruses at Biosafety Level 4 within positive pressure personnel suits.
USAMRIID employs both military and civilian scientists as well as highly specialized support personnel, in all about 800 people. In the 1950s and ‘60s, USAMRIID and its predecessor unit pioneered unique, state-of-the-art biocontainment facilities which it continues to maintain and upgrade. Investigators at its facilities frequently collaborate with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the World Health Organization, and major biomedical and academic centers worldwide.
USAMRIID was the first bio-facility of its type to research the Ames strain of anthrax, determined through genetic analysis to be the bacterium used in the 2001 anthrax attacks.

“This [research] does in fact fit into our overall mission in that although we have not had an outbreak in the military yet, if we were operating in an area where the SARS virus was in fact transmitting, this would be a significant military problem,” said John Huggins. An expert in viral research and chief of the laboratory’s viral therapeutics branch, Huggins’ major concentration has been on screening drugs against viral agents, including Ebola, Marburg, smallpox and now SARS.
Scientists at the Army institute normally work to develop strategies for protecting military personnel against biological warfare threats and naturally occurring infectious diseases.


“The first prototype Class III (maximum containment) biosafety cabinet was fashioned in 1943 by Hubert Kaempf Jr., then a U.S. Army soldier, under the direction of Dr. Arnold G. Wedum, Director (1944–69) of Industrial Health and Safety at the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories, Camp Detrick, Maryland. Kaempf was tired of his MP duties at Detrick and was able to transfer to the sheet metal department working with the contractor, the H.K. Ferguson Co.
On 18 April 1955, fourteen representatives met at Camp Detrick in Frederick, Maryland. The meeting was to share knowledge and experiences regarding biosafety, chemical, radiological, and industrial safety issues that were common to the operations at the three principal biological warfare (BW) laboratories of the U.S. Army Because of the potential implication of the work conducted at biological warfare laboratories, the conferences were restricted to top level security clearances. Beginning in 1957, these conferences were planned to include non-classified sessions as well as classified sessions to enable broader sharing of biological safety information. It was not until 1964, however, that conferences were held in a government installation not associated with a biological warfare program.
Over the next ten years, the biological safety conferences grew to include representatives from all federal agencies that sponsored or conducted research with pathogenic microorganisms.”


118 posted on 09/21/2014 8:19:37 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Who knows? My Mom’s friend has a grandson who is a Navy SEAL and guess where he’s headed?


119 posted on 09/21/2014 8:21:11 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: trebb

Your statement was that all the military does is combat, it obviously isn’t.

Post 24 gave a little bit of what these troops are for.

““The key elements of military response will focus on logistics, supplies, engineering, support for the Accra, Ghana, “air bridge” for transport of supplies and personnel to the epidemic, and the construction of at least 17 new hospital facilities designated for Ebola care.
The military will also build a training facility, which will rapidly teach infection control and self-protection procedures to hundreds of local and foreign health workers. The military hopes to process up to 500 health workers, both civilians and humanitarian responders, in a week.”


120 posted on 09/21/2014 8:24:04 AM PDT by ansel12
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