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Spanish nurse's assistant may have caught Ebola taking off suit, doctor says
CNN ^ | 10-8-2014 | Laura Smith-Spark and Laura Perez Maestro

Posted on 10/08/2014 10:13:16 AM PDT by tcrlaf

A doctor treating the Spanish nurse's assistant who's the first person to contract Ebola outside Africa in the current outbreak said Wednesday that she may have been exposed while removing her protective suit.

Dr. German Ramirez said the woman, who is in isolation at Madrid's Carlos III Hospital, had told him it was possible that she might have had contact with the suit -- possibly the gloves -- on her face.

"That's what we were working on -- on the errors possibly made while removing the protective suit," he told reporters outside the hospital.

"I've spoken to her three times, and she has authorized me to give this information."

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ebola; ohcrap; pandemic; spain
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To: bigtoona

ISIS doesn’t need test tubes; just get some of your fellow jihadis who want to mount a suicide mission for Allah (the crazies in Boko Harum will do nicely). Get them a passport, and arrange a visa through an embassy in Monrovia. Then, get them exposed to the disease, put them on a plane for Mexico, and mix them with the flood coming across the border.

Or, if you prefer, use the Duncan approach and enter the U.S. on a tourist visa. Multiply by several dozen or 100 and watch the disease spread geometrically. A live vector can infect many more people than a dead one. Imagine how many people a terrorist vector might come in contact with before they finally succumb.

On a related note, Congressman Duncan Hunter told FNC’s Greta van Susteran last night that at least 10 ISIS operatives have been captured coming across the Mexican border. No word yet on their travel path before they tried to enter the U.S. But since the border patrol only catches about 10% of the illegals entering our country, it’s a safe bet that 90 more made it across and are still at large—with or without exposure to Ebola.


21 posted on 10/08/2014 11:09:41 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Black Agnes

What is the % of Chlorine in the recommended solutions?


22 posted on 10/08/2014 11:10:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I, Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing war on Ebola. Fox News and Republicans will fight me.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Hmmm, got me there. Maybe 4%?

There was a link to the Canadian equivalent of the CDC that had info for killing it.


23 posted on 10/08/2014 11:14:27 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping…

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

24 posted on 10/08/2014 11:25:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Black Agnes
I’m guessing they weren’t sprayed down with chlorine solution like the MSF teams are...

Makes you wonder how many US hospitals are set up to do that outside the isolation ward/room/unit.

25 posted on 10/08/2014 11:29:55 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Based on the pics from the Alabama news site I’d be willing to bet none. Outside of the official bhl4 care units.


26 posted on 10/08/2014 11:30:42 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Grampa Dave
This seems to be a very important clarification for bleach mixtures. PATHOGEN SAFETY DATA SHEET - INFECTIOUS SUBSTANCES - Canada SUSCEPTIBILITY TO DISINFECTANTS: Ebolavirus is susceptible to 3% acetic acid, 1% glutaraldehyde, alcohol-based products, and dilutions (1:10-1:100 for ≥10 minutes) of 5.25% household bleach (sodium hypochlorite), and calcium hypochlorite (bleach powder) Footnote 48 Footnote 49 Footnote 50 Footnote 62 Footnote 63. The WHO recommendations for cleaning up spills of blood or body fluids suggest flooding the area with a 1:10 dilutions of 5.25% household bleach for 10 minutes for surfaces that can tolerate stronger bleach solutions (e.g., cement, metal) Footnote 62. For surfaces that may corrode or discolour, they recommend careful cleaning to remove visible stains followed by contact with a 1:100 dilution of 5.25% household bleach for more than 10 minutes.
27 posted on 10/08/2014 11:34:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Grampa Dave; Black Agnes

NIH ebola page says std concentrated household bleach one part, water 5 parts.

Common vinegar ( approx 3% solution) straight from bottle.

But either requires allowing solution to stand on surfaces for 15-20 mins IIRC. Best to search “NIH ebola bleach”.


28 posted on 10/08/2014 11:38:23 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: livius
It's not airborne -- unless an infected person sneezes directly on you. The body fluids in that sneeze are certainly "airborne" for the short distance between the patient and you.

"Can Ebola spread by coughing? By sneezing?

Unlike respiratory illnesses like measles or chickenpox, which can be transmitted by virus particles that remain suspended in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is transmitted by direct contact with body fluids of a person who has symptoms of Ebola disease. Although coughing and sneezing are not common symptoms of Ebola, if a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person’s eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3211774/posts

29 posted on 10/08/2014 11:45:21 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Smokin' Joe

Cleaning out the shed and I found some really old bottles of bleach (6-8 years old!). I tried it on the laundry and it seems to work just fine.

BUT - I have read where it loses it’s strength after only 6 months or so, and should not be trusted for disinfecting things.


30 posted on 10/08/2014 11:49:47 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“..unless an infected person sneezes directly on you.”

One also has to be careful of touching infected items (door knobs, counters, etc.) where the virus can live for a day or two. (From coughs, sweat, etc.)


31 posted on 10/08/2014 11:52:46 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: DownInFlames
Sounds like it’s air borne.

Besides the fact you can't spell you don't seem to be able to comprehend.

32 posted on 10/08/2014 11:53:20 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: 21twelve

I am puzzled about this also. Have seen references to loss of potency after little as two months. Is it possible some properties degrade but not others (i.e. disinfection vs color bleaching)? Need a chemist.


33 posted on 10/08/2014 11:59:03 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: tcrlaf

34 posted on 10/08/2014 12:12:36 PM PDT by Perseverando (In Washington, it's common knowledge that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible to be POTUS.)
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To: livius

I’ll believe she said that when it comes out of her own mouth. She told a reporter earlier, in an article today, that she was careful about PPE and protecting herself. It also sounds like she is very sick. Suddenly she remembers a possible incident? Call me skeptical.

The hospital is doing everything it can to point to somebody else, when the HCWs are wearing Level 2 PPE for a Level 4 pathogen.

I hope they keep the other patients in isolation until more tests come back negative. Many people have tested negative at first, only to be positive 72 hours later. Dr. Brantly was such a case.

link to article— http://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2014/10/08/54346601e2704e35598b4571.html


35 posted on 10/08/2014 12:14:23 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Smokin' Joe

Duncan was on dialysis and a ventilator. Sterilize them well before reuse.


36 posted on 10/08/2014 12:47:28 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: tcrlaf; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

37 posted on 10/08/2014 6:42:13 PM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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