Posted on 10/12/2014 7:06:41 AM PDT by maggief
The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said there was "clearly" a breach in protocol that led to a Texas health care worker contracting Ebola after treating a Liberian man who later died from the virus, although authorities do not yet know what that breach was.
"We're deeply concerned about this new development," Dr. Thomas Frieden said in an interview on CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday. "I think the fact that we don't know of a breach in protocol is concerning because clearly there was a breach in protocol. We have the ability to prevent the spread of Ebola by caring safely for patients."
"The fact is that the individual who became ill was, as per protocol, self monitoring. Immediately when they developed symptoms they isolated themselves, they were promptly isolated at the hospital so that any further spread from that individual was stopped," Frieden added.
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Thanks. I had to take a phone call before the ending of the session.
Two things came up in what I did see and hear.
1. There may be a lot more cases of Ebola or possibly infected people.
2. I would love to play poker with the left wing so called Judge, the friend of OboZo. Every time he lied, his eye lids went into a blinking speed up.
The nurse handled the patient (and fluids) at a later stage with more virus. Also nurses job is sometimes to get messy (e.g. cleaning fluids off the patient). From what I can tell the family, primarily the "stepdaughter" Youngor Jallah disinfected after handling the patient. With no protection and some care that might be less risky than getting covered in fluids and expecting the suit to save you.
The biggest difference is the stage of disease with more bleeding and more viruses.
The separate facilities MUST be bio safety Level 4. There are very few such in the US and worldwide. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level
They are kidding themselves with gowns, masks, goggles, face shields, etc.
As you say, we should have started a crash program to build lots of BSL-4 quarantine / rehab centers when it began spiraling out of control in Africa.
What happens when all of our hospitals are contaminated? Read The Hot Zone about how the Reston Monkey House was thoroughly decontaminated and sterilized, yet the new research monkeys brought in all got the SHF virus and died (relative of Ebola).
From the Dept of Laugh or Cry via Twitchy comes McCain’s solution- he wants an.....
EBOLA CZAR! !!!
Seriously- that’s his solution.
Good God. Did I really read that? We are so screwed.
Pathetic!
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-because-of-the-nra-20141012-column.html
Prompted by Crowley, McCain complained, “We were told there would never be a case of Ebola in the United States and obviously that’s not correct.” He said, “There has to be some kind of czar” to manage the disease in the U.S. “I’d like to know who’s in charge, among other things.”
So unfortunately predictable. Gads! Oh I am sure we will have a Ebola czar soon. Some Dr. Kevorkian or Dr. Mengele straight out of central casting. God help us.
Watching Frieden on TV, I was quite sure he was on drugs. My guess would be some sort of upper-downer cocktail. An upper to keep his eyes open, a downer to keep him from running out of the room and jumping into his safe suit.
I wonder how accurate the statement, "You can't spread the disease until you get a fever" is in reality. If accurate why are the contacting the people she had contact with before the two day timeline?
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Guess they will have to take our temperatures before we vote./s
What happened to ebola infected person being safe to sit next to on the bus....
Riding the bus might be a 'breach of protocol I would think./c
Maybe this is a way to keep Texans from coming out to the polls.
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Riding an ebola-infected bus to go vote would seem to be two breaches in protocol, I would think./s
Frieden’s doesn’t seem concerned with protecting American citizens. I think he’s deluded himself into thinking he’s a ‘citizen of the world’... If we get another 2,000 cases of ebola over here it’ll shut down most medical care for other illness. Aside from breaking a rather fragile medical system. Good list - worth repeating:
Blame some unknown breach,
Blame the protocols,
Blame the moon suits,
Blame decontamination methods, the training, lack of education and on and on and on and on...
Never mind isolating these nasty diseases in their countries of origin....
That makes too much GD sense...
Fly these infected and exposed all over the planet...
That’s the ticket!
As the audience of fools applaud...
Something is wrong with him! That’s for sure. Probably multiple things spiritually and psychologically.
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Can't wait to use that on my boss when something I did wrong hits the quarterly fan....
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How about just everybody - don't stop at Dallas, jackass - take any air flight to/from just about anywhere......
Varga’s official statement:
Interesting...sounds like we now have ‘new’ CDC guidelines. CDC is the one dropping the ball here.
We’re the Government & we’re here to help.
O.
M.
G.
ABC CHIEF MEDICAL EDITOR: CDC WRONG, ALL US HOSPITALS CAN’T TREAT EBOLA SAFELY
AUSTIN, Texas — Dr. Richard Besser, the chief health and medical editor for ABC News, told WFAA-Dallas on Sunday that he found the second Texas Ebola case “very concerning.” As reported by Breitbart Texas, the latest patient diagnosed with Ebola is a female nurse at the Texas Presbyterian Hospital who treated Thomas Eric Duncan before he died from the disease. Besser, having recently returned to the United States after visiting Ebola-stricken areas of Liberia, expressed sharp disagreement with the protocols being followed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), dissatisfied with their admission that they needed to adopt enhanced protocols in a press conference Sunday.
Besser told WFAA that he had been anticipating the news of a second Ebola case. “I don’t find it surprising, but I find it very concerning,” he said, continuing that it was necessary for health authorities to cast “a very wide net” to search for anyone who may have had even the most incidental contact with either Duncan or the nurse. The difficulty in containing the spread of the disease, according to Besser, is that it takes special training and experience to follow the isolation protocols and use the protective gear properly.
“The idea that this could be done by any American hospital that has an isolation room and can be done safely, I was skeptical about that,” said Besser, in a clear departure from recent statements by the CDC that any American hospital can safely care for Ebola patients. Besser mentioned the highly specialized biocontainment equipment and advanced training available at at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, where Fort Worth doctor Kent Brantly was successfully treated for Ebola exposure, and the Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, where an NBC photographer is currently getting treatment.
Besser agreed with Dr. Tom Frieden, the CDC head, who had said that the new Ebola case was caused by a “breach in protocol.” “You cannot get sick without a breach in protocol, [however] you can’t implement that protocol without training and practice. It’s very difficult to take off the protective gear in such a manner that you don’t potentially contaminate yourself.” Besser cited this new Dallas case and the case of a nurse in Spain who had contracted Ebola from a patient, and the fact that health care workers at the Emory and Nebraska facilities had not gotten sick, as illustrative of the vital difference that the training can make.
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