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Is Keynes Misunderstood, Maligned By Critics?
Townhall.com ^ | October 13, 2014 | Hunter Lewis

Posted on 10/13/2014 11:14:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/13/2014 11:14:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Keynes only makes sense if you believe that you can take water out of the deep end of the pool and pour it into the shallow end to make the shallow end deeper.

However, Keynesian economics does fit hand in glove with leftist/humanist beliefs - that everything could be perfect if the right people were given enough power to make things perfect.


2 posted on 10/13/2014 11:16:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

IIRG Keynes ‘stimulus’ was to use surplus funds for short term and quickly rebuild the surplus.

I would look it up and reread it; but it makes my brain hurt!


3 posted on 10/13/2014 11:19:43 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Kaslin

I have a BIL who is an economist. He says he had to read Keynes in grad school, and that it can be interpreted in many ways. What is called Keynesianism now is just the way it wound up be interpreted in the 70’s.


4 posted on 10/13/2014 11:22:59 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Keynes cannot be anything but “misunderstood.” His writing is very poor. I have tried several times to read Theory of Money...etc and cannot make of sense out of it. Paragraphs do not hang together. His arguments do not fit his assertions. What people “understand” about Keynes is the official interpretation of his book and the things he later said he wrote. His writing simply does not make sense. Everyone should find a copy of the book and read it. Read it carefully. If you just skim the lead sentences in the paragraphs and go straight to the conclusions you may feel you know what it is all about. If you analyze it it becomes simply turgid and irrational ramblings


5 posted on 10/13/2014 11:25:10 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: MrB

Rule by the Experts. Friedman’s Monetarism is a mirror image sort of the same thing.


6 posted on 10/13/2014 11:26:29 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: MrB

Keynes was a homosexual with no vision for a sustainable future for his progeny. (Children are born and raised by hetero-sexual unions.) Keynes future outlook was summarized by himself, “...in the end we are all dead!” His real outlook eat, drink, sodomize and then die ...the end. In contrast Solomon wrote wisdom for the ages “ A good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children...” Proverbs 13:22


7 posted on 10/13/2014 11:26:36 AM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

Keynes was simply wrong. However, i believe if he could somehow see what things have been done in his name today even he would understand his error.


8 posted on 10/13/2014 11:29:40 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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Even Keynes maligned Keynes in his later years.
9 posted on 10/13/2014 11:40:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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When asked about the long-term outcome of his policies, Keynes famously said "in the long run, we're all dead."

That was then. This is now. The long run has finally arrived, and we're all dead.

Hayek vs. Keynes: A Rap Anthem.

10 posted on 10/13/2014 11:45:33 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Kaslin

This is one of the better articles about Keynes. Many of the negative comments above address leftist distortions about what Keynes actually said. Keynes was no Keynesian (as that term is fondly used by today’s tax-and-spend big-government advocates).


11 posted on 10/13/2014 12:01:46 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: MrB

“Keynes only makes sense if you believe that you can take water out of the deep end of the pool and pour it into the shallow end to make the shallow end deeper.”

A better analogy would be: if you believe that you can dam up a river, to reduce flooding, and store up water for release during droughts. Of course, you can do that — and, in theory, you can do much the same with fiscal policy.

However, while in theory there’s no difference between theory and practice: in practice there is. Fiscal policy works well in theory — it doesn’t fare so well in practice.

The big problem with fiscal policy is that it’s usually about 180 out of phase with the economy. By the time fiscal “stimulus” is put into effect, the economy is booming, and theory calls for fiscal restraint — and vice versa.

An even bigger problem is the way tax-and-spend governments use fiscal policy. They’re all for stimulus. They never met an economic indicator that didn’t look like a signal for increased spending. However, they completely ignore the other half of Keynes’ prescription — pay back debts during boom times. That never happens — and that’s why Keynes’ would not be among today’s Keynesians.


12 posted on 10/13/2014 12:16:43 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Never trust anyone who nurtured at the knee of G.E. Moore, like Keynes. Moore was a philosopher that Wittgenstein said was proof of how far you could get in philosophy without knowing anything.


13 posted on 10/13/2014 12:46:29 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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Yes he “was in favor of some amount of wealth redistribution and government intervention into the economy.” But “Keynesian policies are fundamentally … about economic stability,… about smoothing out the fluctuations in the economy, reducing risk for everyone concerned.”

Keynesian fiscal policy is budget deficits financed by confiscatory taxation, government borrowing, and creation of money out of thin air.Keynesian monetary policy is easy money (credit expansion and low interest rates).

The problem is that the nature of Keynesianism is statist. Also, it is a paradox. He wants expansion with stability, but deficits, inflation, confiscatory taxes, and excessive borrowing cause decreased capital accumulation which leads to stagnation. Also, Keynesian economic stimulus artificially sets the stage for financial contraction, which becomes the next recession.

14 posted on 10/13/2014 1:35:57 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Keynes was a socialist. Here's why.

As WW II ended, Britain elected a Labor government that promised socialism in full measure, with the nationalization of major industries, public health care, and intensive regulation for the common good.

Since Britain was exhausted by war, broke and without credit, the new socialist government looked to America and sent the much respected Keynes to negotiate a package of grants and loans. Fortunately, Keynes' arrogance killed any prospect of success.

Keynes opened the conference in Washington with a long statement to the effect that Britain had a strong claim on America because Britain had fought longer and sacrificed more in the war than America had. In other words, in Keynes' sales pitch, Britain's wartime sacrifices meant that she was entitled to call on America to finance her embrace of socialism.

As it was, Keynes got nothing. Britain had to pay for socialism by herself. The dismal consequences of socialism eventually led to the election of Margaret Thatcher and the unwinding of much of the socialist state that Keynes had supported.

15 posted on 10/13/2014 1:45:34 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Kaslin

Maligned? Yes, and deservedly so.
Misunderstood? Not a chance.


16 posted on 10/13/2014 2:04:39 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Maceman
I like this one better:
Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two
17 posted on 10/13/2014 2:08:48 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Kaslin

For all the years before this Keynes baboon was given credence, the nation had been operating under the foundational work of one John Kenneth Galbraith, whose teachings I learned, while in high school.


18 posted on 10/13/2014 2:43:20 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: MrB

“Keynes only makes sense if you believe that you can take water out of the deep end of the pool and pour it into the shallow end to make the shallow end deeper.”
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Don’t be silly, no one believes something that stupid, what you can do is take one hour off one end of the day and add it to the other end to make it longer.


19 posted on 10/13/2014 2:47:16 PM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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rofl


20 posted on 10/13/2014 2:51:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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