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Is Keynes Misunderstood, Maligned By Critics?
Townhall.com ^ | October 13, 2014 | Hunter Lewis

Posted on 10/13/2014 11:14:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“Many of the negative comments above address leftist distortions about what Keynes actually said. Keynes was no Keynesian (as that term is fondly used by today’s tax-and-spend big-government advocates).”

Keynes made his feelings known through an anecdote about the time that he attended a meeting of ‘Keynesians’. When he returned home at the end of the evening he told his wife Lydia “I was the only non-Keynesian there”.

He gets blamed for a lot of policies that he didn’t advocate. They were actually the policies of socialists who called themselves Kenynesians.


21 posted on 10/13/2014 7:32:48 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: MrB
"Keynes only makes sense if you believe that you can take water out of the deep end of the pool and pour it into the shallow end to make the shallow end deeper."

Keynes believed the government should tax high in the good years and then drop taxes in the bad years and the government then gives back what it took in the good years to smooth out the bad years.

Keynesians believe you tax high in the good years and tax higher in the bad years and keep raising taxes because well they get more money to buy more votes by spending more money on government pork.

22 posted on 10/13/2014 7:37:35 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Terry L Smith

Galbraith himself was a ‘Keynesian’. Keynes is at least a generation older than John Kenneth Galbraith and had written his ‘Economic Consequences of the Peace’ when Galbraith was still a young teenager.


23 posted on 10/13/2014 7:49:37 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: Mad Dawgg

That’s right. Keynes also advocated reducing government spending and paying down debt during the good years so that you could be free to spend during the bad times.

The big flaw in Keynes is that politicians don’t work that way and never will. They don’t look at the long term and will continue to spend during the boom times and constantly increase the amount of debt.

When we operated under the gold standard of Bretton Woods there was still a feedback mechanism to work on Congress to hold spending in check- but again politics won out. Kennedy was the first to ignore a simmering inflation, which only increased under LBJ. And then Nixon scrapped Bretton Woods and cut the dollar loose from gold. The decline of dollar since 1971 is no coincidence.


24 posted on 10/13/2014 8:02:22 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: Pelham; Terry L Smith
Pelham is correct.

25 posted on 10/13/2014 8:10:01 PM PDT by tomkat (tried optimism > didn't work)
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To: arthurus

So how is this all working for us?


26 posted on 10/13/2014 8:30:14 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldnÂ’t make any sense at all." -- Pres. Reagan)
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To: stocksthatgoup

not real well....


27 posted on 10/13/2014 10:53:44 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: arthurus

I tried that book as well and found it unreadable. The official interpretation you speak of comes from Paul Samuelson and John Hicks. They must have had magic spectacles to decode Keynes’ writing or they got his ideas from some other source.


28 posted on 10/13/2014 11:08:36 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: MrB

http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/1996/5/cj16n1-7.pdf


29 posted on 10/14/2014 4:02:22 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Kaslin; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; NFHale; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA
Is Keynes Misunderstood, (unfairly) Maligned By Critics?

Short answer, no. Long answer, hell no.

30 posted on 10/14/2014 6:52:56 AM PDT by Impy (Voting democrat out of spite? Then you are America's enemy, like every other rat voter.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Keynes suggested before his death that the original was a parody. It was, in fact, written very like those theses that MIT students and others from time to time get accepted into the peer reviewed journals after which the writers announce that it was all a nonsense conglomeration of jargon and tautology. Keynes got accepted and promoted before he got to the point of announcing his Hoax and kept his mouth shut, maybe.


31 posted on 10/14/2014 9:37:59 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: muir_redwoods
You can't say K was "wrong" until you figure out what his thesis and arguments actually were. That is a herculean task, probably impossible from the actual content of Money and Credit. His followers were emphatically and indubitably wrong.
32 posted on 10/14/2014 9:40:34 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Impy; Kaslin; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; NFHale; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued

Yes, yes.


33 posted on 10/14/2014 3:26:16 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Pelham

Ya know .... after I wrote that, I thought I had better look, myself. Keynes may have been older, but was not mentioned in that class.

So, in response, who was “the man with the plan”, in the time of The Founding Fathers?

Might we return to THAT person’s writings?


34 posted on 10/15/2014 6:33:21 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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