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Reid rejects Ebola travel ban proposal
http://www.reviewjournal.com ^ | 10/17/2014 | By JAMES DEHAVEN

Posted on 10/17/2014 1:38:08 PM PDT by redreno

U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Friday rejected a call for travel bans from Ebola-ravaged West Africa, suggesting that it was too early for such a move.

“We have a lot of people in Sierra Leone and in places like Liberia who are dual citizens,” the Nevada Democrat said in Henderson. “If there was a ban they would just fly to smaller countries before coming here.”

House Republicans had called for such a travel ban at a congressional hearing Thursday. President Barack Obama rejected the proposal on Friday.

Reid also backed the Obama administration’s approach to the deadly, expressing faith in just-appointed Ebola Czar Ron Klain’s ability to do an “outstanding job” combating the fast-moving disease.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: ebola; harryreid; nevada; noflylist; reid; senate
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To: TexasFreeper2009
--- ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CHECK THEIR FREAKING PASSPORT FOR A RECENT VISIT TO ONE OF THE WEST AFRICAN COUNTRIES! ---

This is just fodder for the lofos and true believers. Something for them to cling to.

So far, it seems to be working. 33% still oppose a travel ban.

61 posted on 10/17/2014 2:34:36 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: pogo101

Excellent point!


62 posted on 10/17/2014 2:44:57 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: pogo101

If this is indeed a bioengineered virus, it’s very possible it could selectively kill republicans.


63 posted on 10/17/2014 2:46:24 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: redreno

I say offer the Liberians free one-way tickets to Las Vegas


64 posted on 10/17/2014 2:47:40 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Bill93
The history of what happened to the American Indian is sad enough without trying to turn anyone and everyone with white skin into a villain.

I completely agree. I am also one of the "indigenous"ones, at least partly, with a genetic makeup that includes Cree Indian, Central American Indian, as well as Scotch-Irish and Central European.

That the idea of getting payback is absurd is merely a further indication of the utter insanity of the Left. Their solutions only add to the problems.

And let's not forget Louis Farrakhan's contribution to this debate, "Ebola was created by the white man to reduce the population of black people."

Interesting times.

65 posted on 10/17/2014 2:56:10 PM PDT by newheart (The greatest trick the Left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: redreno

Please call congress and tell them that we must be deadly serious about containing Ebola by strict quarantine within the United States and from infected nations. This is our right and our duty and it is THEIR duty to protect US.

Capitol switchboard is 202-224-3121 or Google your congressman or senator and get his contact information and call him / her office directly. You can also call or go to their local offices.

I believe decisive response is urgent because you can’t put this Ebola genie back in the bottle once it gets out. It is a fire, it consumes all the fuel it can get and the fuel is people. The only way to stop a fire is to block it from the fuel or cool it with water. A vaccine or medicine to treat Ebola would be the water and we don’t have reliable, enough or any.

Every possible measure must be taken to stop the spread before draconian measures are imposed. What is being done now is sloppy. We are walking a dangerous road. The threat is blossoming by the day if not hour. Almost every hour there is some new Ebola development and none of them are good. This is a serious and potentially deadly event. Unchecked it could destroy or weaken the United States and facilitate our destruction by others. It has that potential for every country and that is why so many are responding with such strict quarantines. These consequences, no matter how small the probabilities, demand a full effort and significant response.

Ebola is being spread here in the United States right now. First Texas, then Ohio then? Terror is an excellent weapon. It disrupts, confuses, paralyzes and destroys a society. Many others and we on FR have speculated that terrorists may spread Ebola. How do you that remember 9/11 feel right now compared to what you felt then? Do you want to gather your loved ones near you to protect them? I do. Even more than I did on September 11, 2001! Isn’t this passive response by this administration accomplishing the very same things a terrorist would want?
When something is being done that makes as little sense as what Obama is doing there has to be some other reason. I leave it to you dear reader to draw your own conclusions as to the reasons.
What is happening now is insane. It makes no sense at all. For example the head of CDC says: “Stopping travel from Africa won’t do any good because you have to get people into Africa to fight Ebola.” “You can’t get Ebola from an infected person on a bus but an infected person should never be on a bus because he can infect others.” “Blocking travel from infected countries would damage their fragile economies.” What about ours? What about our safety? What about resources we have paid for that should be protecting us?

Even the most despotic dictatorship in Africa has acted to protect his nation by strict quarantine and stopping travel from infected countries. Even CDC, the UN and WHO advocate and credit strict quarantine for nipping the spread of Ebola in the bud at the source in places like Senegal and Nigeria where both have had faster and more successful outbreak controls than we have had here. 35 countries have stopped travel of people from infected West African countries. It is so obvious even a child could understand it so why is it OK for people from infected countries to travel here?
I will post this message and keep posting it until someone stops me.

For further reference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216461/posts


66 posted on 10/17/2014 3:02:12 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You can't get Ebola on a bus but if you are infected you can give Ebola to someone on a bus. WTH?)
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To: nobamanomore

Do they stamp for all travels? I recently went to Canada, and my passport was not stamped there.


67 posted on 10/17/2014 3:06:24 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: pogo101

Forgot /sarc on last post.

Never know, some Daily Kos or HuffPo loon may take me seriously.


68 posted on 10/17/2014 3:10:39 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: anoldafvet

Too difficult, apparently, for US Customs.

I’ve been to a lot of countries where customs didn’t seem to have problems assessing the validity of dates. When and how did we become so incompetent?


69 posted on 10/17/2014 3:15:48 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; Pearls Before Swine
If you dont quarantine the disease, it will burn itself out after it runs out of victims.

I think you meant "if you quarantine, it will run out victims". But that's an entirely different issue than quarantining before letting people in. I would rather quarantine them here so we can watch them. It would be better to ban them all from coming in the first place.

As for Ebola running out of victims, it doesn't work that way. It can't spread fast enough to use up the victims in any area. They tried it in the West Point slum and got only a steady smattering of victims as people took some basic precautions and stayed uninfected.

That's what's known as endemic disease. Just like malaria, yellow fever, and most so-called tropical diseases used to be everywhere including here in North America straight up to the Arctic circle. The disease never ever burns out, it stays around forever until it is eradicated. Ebola is pretty much that type of disease, a bit more deadly than those, but harder to catch.

The correct and simple way to eradicate Ebola is find all the victims and remove them and put them somewhere where they can't infect others. It helps to quarantine suspected cases but it is not as essential as going into every endemic area and removing the victims.

Instead, in Liberia and Sierra Leone we have victims at home infecting the village, and deadly customs like washing the dead and home burials. It mainly spreads through ignorance although it is not selective.

70 posted on 10/17/2014 4:00:03 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I haven’t been to Canada since they started requiring a passport, which was only a few years ago. They definitely stamp them elsewhere, if you go through customs. I don’t recall whether they are stamped if you just change planes and never leave the airport. I would think if you go through customs, the customs people have to stamp it. My last trip to Canada was the last year you didn’t need a passport,went to British Columbia, shot a nice bear!


71 posted on 10/17/2014 4:05:27 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: redreno

The democrats are at it again. They don’t care about the well being of Americans. All they care about is votes.


72 posted on 10/17/2014 4:14:12 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: redreno

Reid is surrounded by 50 IQ apes who are very good at attacking reporters in US Senate hallways.

That’s all he’s got.


73 posted on 10/17/2014 5:44:26 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: palmer
palmer:"I think you meant "if you quarantine, it will run out victims". But that's an entirely different issue than quarantining before letting people in.
I would rather quarantine them here so we can watch them.
It would be better to ban them all from coming in the first place."

Agreed ! I stand corrected ! That is what I meant to say .

palmer:" It helps to quarantine suspected cases but it is not as essential as going into every endemic area and removing the victims".

Agreed again !
Triage according to the degree of illness:
A) suspected cases
B) cases with pre-test of illness, but not severe at this time, pending further testing.( These are the most responsive to treatment if diagnosed within 3-5 days of symptoms)
C) cases confirmed with Ebola test ( acknowledging that some tests give false negative results for Ebola) .
D) cases CONFIRMRED - respit and palitive care, isolated from general population

74 posted on 10/17/2014 5:46:37 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: redreno; John Semmens

Note to John Semmens.

You have to Post the word “Satire” in the Thread Title.

What, this isn’t one of your Threads?

Time to retire Harry Reid to the Old Home for Communist Undertakers.


75 posted on 10/17/2014 5:50:26 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: palmer

Leper Colony.

Ebola Colony.

Democrat Colony.

It’s a natural progression.


76 posted on 10/17/2014 5:52:27 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: nobamanomore

passports are usually stamped by foreign immigration officers showing the date you entered and number of days your visa is valid for.

they can be stamped by foreign customs officers if you use a tax free exemption that can only be used once a year or such so they will stamp a notation of when you used it if you returned..

the us usually doesn’t bother, new passports are machine readable and your data is entered everytime you enter.


77 posted on 10/17/2014 6:01:41 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

78 posted on 10/18/2014 12:17:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


79 posted on 10/18/2014 9:50:31 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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