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So basically, it turn out EXACTLY how Conservatives predicted it would back in 2010.
1 posted on 10/18/2014 12:13:27 PM PDT by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat

Here’s a hint...healthcare isn’t free.


2 posted on 10/18/2014 12:18:21 PM PDT by Wolfie
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Obama are is a pathetic shell game. Fooling nobody


3 posted on 10/18/2014 12:18:21 PM PDT by ghost of nixon
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The company I work for is self-insured and I now have a $3,000 deductible for my insurance. They also made some other changes for 2015 that will mean AFLAC-type insurance that I will have to pay for.


4 posted on 10/18/2014 12:19:54 PM PDT by rabidralph
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Thanks, Bart, you stupid-pack-of-crap, pro-choice idiot.


5 posted on 10/18/2014 12:20:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Who could have guessed that this would turn out so badly (other than 55% of voters).


6 posted on 10/18/2014 12:23:26 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Well, if it is any consolation to all the uninsured who are now insured with worthless, expensive policies, the rest of us who have paid the price for good insurance over the years can’t afford it anymore, and our policies are nothing compared to what we used to have. There are high copays and deductibles, and maximum payouts where there used to be none. For people on the economic margin, where millions of us reside, Obamacare and the fascist insurance tyrants it supports are killing us. We have carried the burden of insane markups in medical costs, and our backs are breaking.


9 posted on 10/18/2014 12:27:03 PM PDT by pallis
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“... insurers must cover certain preventive services...at no cost ...”
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The services are not provided “at no cost”.
Those costs are already calculated into the premium.
The services are pre-paid, whether you use them or not.


10 posted on 10/18/2014 12:27:20 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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As long as it makes a difference in the life on one person seeking gender reassignment, it will all be worth it.


11 posted on 10/18/2014 12:31:56 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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Every one of those people interviewed for this piece either were happy with their old TV or else they walked into Best Buy or Target and paid exactly what The store asked in terms of price for their new TV.

Medicine costs money. Doctors and hospitals these days work under huge burdens from the government. Hospitals are forced to treat illegals for free.

If your deductible is $3000 and your wife is struck with something serious after hours, it was your choice to take her to the ER. And $1000 was your bill, which means she probably didn’t have anything super serious, thank Gd. You can pay it off $100 a month if you wish.

You can have good health care or you can have free health care.


12 posted on 10/18/2014 12:33:35 PM PDT by Yaelle
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"So basically, it turn out EXACTLY how Conservatives predicted it would back in 2010."

More like the 1990's when conservative think tanks (Heritage Foundation?) hatched the ideas behind RomneyCare that has morphed into Obamacare. We have met the enemy and he are us?

13 posted on 10/18/2014 12:36:00 PM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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Just had a conversation with a new member of my senior softball group who now has a reduced annual income of about $25K.........His enrollment in Obamacare is costing him about $350 per month but has a $3,500 deductible BEFORE Obamacare starts paying ANY of his bills.......

So lets do the math: $4,200 per year in premiums, plus the $3,500 deductible and that equals $7,700 in medical expenses before Obamacare kicks in............That's almost 1/3 of his annual salary...............

16 posted on 10/18/2014 12:43:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't harsh my buzz homie......)
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I think we all know health care isn’t free but Obama care for some has quadrupled the cost of insurance and deductibles to the point people cannot afford to use their own insurance. And this hardship is being force on people who were just barely able to provide insurance for their families to start with while deadbeats get full coverage for everything.


17 posted on 10/18/2014 12:46:18 PM PDT by dalebert
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All the more reason to get as many illegals into the US as soon as possible, make them full-fledged citizens, and start reaping the huge economic benefits of their hard work and taxes. They will help spread the costs of healthcare among more working people, lowering the premiums for everyone and leaving big smiles on all Americans’ faces. Healthcare will be focused on prevention and the cost will be much lower than it was before O-Care. And, not only that, but all the new immigrant (Democrats) will pay social security taxes and secure the retirement benefits for all Americans. /sarc off

[The preceding sarcastic statements are so utterly ridiculous they should induce vomiting, but despite what conservatives have trumpeted for years, these are the very arguments that politicians proffered regarding illegals, healthcare costs, and social security. Where are those politicians now? Do you hear these arguments anymore? Such arguments have led to our nation being at grave risk of extended economic failure and have put all Americans’ health, jobs, and retirement at greater risk than ever before]


18 posted on 10/18/2014 12:47:53 PM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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Chin up, sweetie.
Pelosi and obama promised you INSURANCE and you got INSURANCE.

And someone else is paying for most of it! Now, no one ever said it would be good insurance beyond providing you basics. Like free birth control pills.

I’m betting you voted for it, too


19 posted on 10/18/2014 12:48:17 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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I don’t have insurance. I need a tetanus shot. It should be about $15. To see the doc-ina-box is $250 plus the shot. To see my regular doctor...I can’t just specify a nurse, is about the same. So, it’s going to cost $265 or so for a tetanus shot. (Any thoughts on how to get it cheaper? None of the local pharmacies carry them.)


23 posted on 10/18/2014 1:03:52 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Yeah just more of the same magic hookum hopey changey crap of zero sum game. Nothing is improved. The good gets worse and the bad is still bad.

The cost of everything goes up except for the ones who get something for free.


24 posted on 10/18/2014 1:08:04 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You can't get Ebola on a bus but if you are infected you can give Ebola to someone on a bus. WTH?)
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This is the same thing that happened to my in-laws’ neighbor. He took out the insurance so that he would have coverage. But he said his deductible is $5000 before the policy kick in. He said he couldn’t afford the deductible and is postponing an operation. (Yet he still touts what a great thing Obamacare is.)

These people pay the premiums while having essentially no health care.


26 posted on 10/18/2014 1:11:34 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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I hate obamacare but a high deductible is a good thing. If everyone had a high deductible there would be a lot less waste of collective insurance funds. Pay for the small stuff yourself.

REPEAL OBAMACARE NOW!

One more thing: if healthcare service providers had to post the cost of services to everyone, not just insurance companies, BEFORE services were rendered then that industry could benefit from free market competition and costs would go way down. As it is, the poor sick individual has to wait until he/she arrives home to learn those 4 days in the hospital ran up an $80,000 tab.


30 posted on 10/18/2014 1:27:36 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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“So basically, it turn out EXACTLY how Conservatives predicted it would back in 2010.”

In every respect.


33 posted on 10/18/2014 1:32:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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Doctors are under a lot of pressure right now. They have become hesitant to prescribe medicines they think their patients cannot afford.

And several times at pharmacies I have seen elderly people who looked miserable because a drug they really need has gone up by $20 a month. “But I really need my insulin...”


36 posted on 10/18/2014 1:38:33 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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