Posted on 10/18/2014 6:44:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Rand Paul won his Senate seat without winning any notable amount of the black vote. In a match up with Hillary Clinton, he’s currently set to take 15% of the black vote. That’s much better than Mitt Romney, but he’s up against Hillary Clinton. Not Barack Obama.
And his MSNBC comments about letting businesses discriminate against black people haven’t been in autoplay for eight months, which they would be if he ever won the primaries. After that, he would be lucky to get 1 percent no matter how many trips he makes to Ferguson.
So his constant chatter about winning minority votes remains hypothetical pandering. He hasn’t actually won those votes.
WOLF BLITZER: If you run for president, Senator, you think it’s possible you could get some sizable African-American support?
RAND PAUL: I think if we don’t, we won’t ever win again. We’re a very diverse country. But if Republicans don’t go out and compete for African-American votes, don’t go out and compete for the Hispanic vote and the Asian-American vote, we won’t win again in our country because the country is a diverse country now and we can’t have one party that monopolizes the various ethnic group votes. So, we do have to compete and if I do it, I plan on competing for all votes.
There’s a difference between competing and pandering. More to the point, this appeal isn’t really pitched to black voters, it’s aimed at convincing establishment Republicans that he can win over those voters in a general election.
Can he? Christie is currently at 13 percent of the black vote against Hillary. Paul is at 15 percent. So to some degree, his campaign has worked, but it’s a really small and untested degree.
Paul’s outreach efforts, like McCain’s candidacy, is being propped up by a smiling media which finds his Republican bashing narrative useful. And that lets him pile up some numbers until they bring the hammer down and when your father is slightly to the left of David Duke and you went on MSNBC to effectively suggest abolishing the Civil Rights Act, the media won’t even have to strain hard to do it.
But Paul does score 21 percent of the votes of those who identify as liberal. Christie only pulls in 19 percent.
Lord he is stupid to be a doc
Given how much each race votes....whites a lot more in comparison
Every one point increase in white vote is worth 7-10 times that in black votes
Think about that
If “woods” got their heads right and voted like they do in POTUS elections in Mississippi or Alabama we would win in landslides crushing minority voting regardless
Pity.
Chew on that anonymous.
“The GOPe could only conceivably win the black vote by out-pandering the left, in which case,why bother? Of course, they’ve already trial-tested that strategy in Mississippi.”
That’s my point. In a state like Mississippi, for every black vote you pull in with pandering, 5 white votes stay at home. I would not agree that they tried that strategy in Mississippi (in the Senate Primary, I presume)...they simply abused the Open Primary system (about the dumbest system ever invented by politicians) to their advantage. Pandering in this context would be Republican leaders joining the mob in Ferguson Missouri.
What is the ‘Black Vote’?
Rand is against voter ID.
Republicans cannot win without the White vote. The Black vote would help, the White vote is essential. Immigration restriction (legal and illegal) is popular with both groups.
On affirmative action: they could propose limiting it to African-Americans (Americans of African heritage whose ancestors were brought here as slaves) only. It is absurd that those who came here voluntarily should benefit from a program meant to ‘right historical wrongs.’ This might be a ‘mend it don’t end it’ compromise that could satisfy Blacks, moderate Whites, and even some conservatives.
If Republicans want the Hispanic vote they just need to give up their low tax/small government rhetoric; even third generation Hispanics prefer a big government with higher taxes to pay for it. First generation Hispanics support big government with higher taxes by 75%. Let that sink in open borders Randian Republicans.
Also because our republic has morphed into a mob democracy, where people who have no stake in the health and well-being of the nation, other than their gibmes, have been given the vote. The Free Sh*t Army has a say in how much of the taxpayers’ money they get.
They came close enough to pandering, in calling Chris McDaniel and conservatives racists, and asking the”black leaders” (usually the pastors, in MS) what they wanted in exchange for their votes. Remember after Cochran “won”, those black leaders publicly calling in their markers for having voted for him?
It’s the monolithic 90-something percent of blacks who vote for the ‘rats and the gibmes in every election.
Isn’t it amazing that they want a repeat of the failed policies of the countries from which they fled to come here?
Apparently so will endless hordes of invading aliens...
This society is pretty much done.
True, good point. But not the November pandering needed to actually win some of them.
I agree. I’m not even that sad about it anymore-it’s made me really think about that saying, “God, country, family”, and the reason for the order of those things. America, according to most Bible prophecy scholars, doesn’t even figure in end-times prophecy, so we may be seeing the beginning of the end. It’s just a hard mental adjustment at first, when all your life you’ve been a patriotic American and rightly believed it’s been a great force for good in the world, in the past. But that’s the past, in the future, it seems that the US will be nil.
That’s true. There was never any doubt, that in the general, they would “go home” to the ‘rats. That didn’t bother Cochran, his camp believed that if he could just win the primary, by means fair or foul, that conservatives would vote for him in the general, because, “where else are they gonna go?” Boy are he and Barbour in for a big surprise come November.
Same old meme...but I’ll give Rand credit, he’s turned out to be a first-class panderer.
Hes a profound disappointment
It certainly was a great force for good in the world, but something happened.
It’s like we just hollowed out, and in that empty space the worst things grew.
I don’t trust my own country anymore, I mean not even a little bit.
It’s just mind blowing how the greatest country ever has produced some of the worst people ever, and those people are driving this train.
Once white American natives have been reduced to 10% of the population our work will be done.
sincerely,
your pals at the GOP and the Democrat party.
That doesn’t bother me as much anymore either. I look at this way-as a white person, I don’t want to live in the kind of world that’s going to exist without white people anyway-barbarous, primitive, and violent.
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
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