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As Fighting Rages, Turkey’s Erdogan Rejects Any US Plan to Arm Syrian Kurds Battling ISIS
CNSNews ^ | October 19, 2014 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 10/19/2014 2:53:25 PM PDT by jazusamo

(CNSNews.com) – Turkey’s president on Sunday rejected U.S. proposals to arm Syrian Kurds fighting against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL) near the Turkish border, shortly after the White House said he and President Obama had pledged to “strengthen cooperation” against the jihadists.

“It would be wrong for the United States, with whom we are friends and allies in NATO, to talk openly and to expect us to say ‘yes’ to such a support to a terrorist organization,” said President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

His comments were the latest sign that Turkey and the U.S. are far from being in lockstep when it comes to the conflict, despite administration officials’ attempts to play down differences.

The main Syrian Kurdish group defending the strategic border town of Kobani against an ISIS assault is the Democratic Union Party (PYD), a secularist organization that was outlawed and suppressed by the Assad regime for years before the civil war broke out.

Turkey is hostile towards the PYD because it has links to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), a group that waged a bloody separatist struggle in south-eastern Turkey for three decades until it entered a peace process with Ankara last year.

For weeks Turkey has watched the fighting, refusing to intervene or to allow Kurds to cross the border to help the town’s defenders in their fight against ISIS.

Last Friday, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf confirmed that a U.S. official had several days earlier held a first direct meeting with a PYD representative. Although the PKK is a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, Harf said its links to the PYD would not deter the U.S. from meeting with the Syrian Kurdish group.

She also said the U.S. was not now arming the PYD, but declined to “rule anything in or out” in that regard.

“The PYD is for us equal to the PKK,” Turkey’s Anadolu state news agency quoted Erdogan as saying on Sunday. “It is a terror organization.”

“It would be wrong for the United States, with whom we are friends and allies in NATO, to talk openly and to expect us to say ‘yes’ to such a support to a terrorist organization,” he added. “It cannot expect such a thing from us and we cannot say ‘yes’ to such a thing either.”

Those remarks were reported shortly after the White House said in a brief statement that Obama had phoned Erdogan “to discuss Syria, particularly the situation in Kobani, and steps that could be taken to counter ISIL advances.”

“The two leaders pledged to continue to work closely together to strengthen cooperation against ISIL,” it said.

As part of its air offensive against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria, the U.S. and partners are carrying out airstrikes against ISIS positions around Kobani, but despite the battle’s ebb and flow over recent weeks the fighting there is continuing, and was reportedly especially fierce on Sunday.

Almost 200,000 Syrian Kurds have fled the fighting and entered Turkey, where about 1.5 million Syrian refugees are sheltering.

Although Turkey and the PYD share a common foe in Syrian President Bashar Assad, as the complex civil war has dragged on Turkey has worried that Syrian Kurds’ success in carving out of an autonomous zone straddling the Turkish border would boost separatism among its own large Kurdish minority.

Because of the PYD’s links to the PKK, Erdogan seems content for now to watch the PYD and ISIS battle each other since that weakens Syrian Kurdish autonomy. Earlier this month he said that as far as Turkey was concerned, the PKK and ISIS were “the same.”

Although Turkey recently agreed to train and equip moderate Syrian rebels who are fighting against both the Assad regime and ISIS, it has refused so far to allow the U.S. to use its military facilities to launch air attacks against the jihadists.

Erdogan has stated repeatedly that the Assad regime must be the primary target. He also wants a no-fly zone to be enforced to protect rebels against regime aircraft, and calls for the establishment of a safe haven on the Syrian side of the border to shelter civilians fleeing the fighting.

Neither the no-fly zone nor the safe haven are on Washington’s agenda, and U.S. officials maintain that although Assad must eventually go as part of a political settlement – rather than a military campaign – the current priority is the fight against ISIS.

Despite these differences, administration officials have repeatedly underlined areas of agreement with Turkey, describing it as a committed and “ very valued member ” of the anti-ISIS coalition.

Early this month Vice-President Joe Biden during a public appearance said Turkey had acknowledged having erred in allowing foreign fighters to pour across its border into Syria to join the jihad there. Erdogan fumed, and Biden phoned to apologize.


TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
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Despite these differences, administration officials have repeatedly underlined areas of agreement with Turkey, describing it as a committed and “very valued member” of the anti-ISIS coalition.

Anyone got a bridge for sale, 0bama and Kerry are buying.

1 posted on 10/19/2014 2:53:25 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

The title should have said they rejected a personal appeal by fundraiser in chief. Our community activist has as much creds with our “allies” as I do with Putin.


2 posted on 10/19/2014 2:59:45 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: jazusamo

where’s that reset button?


3 posted on 10/19/2014 3:00:53 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Mouton

I believe if the truth were known 0bama and Erdogan are in perfect agreement about ISIS, they support them.


4 posted on 10/19/2014 3:03:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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RE: As Fighting Rages, Turkey’s Erdogan Rejects Any US Plan to Arm Syrian Kurds Battling ISIS

Only with Obolo in the White Hut can Turkey reject or veto any US plan to arm the Syrian Kurds.


5 posted on 10/19/2014 3:05:16 PM PDT by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: jazusamo

A president with (guts) would tell Erdogan ‘Either you go after ISIS, or we arm the Kurds, and won’t ask questions about where some of the weapons end up’.

PKK are bad guys, but so is Erdogan’s crowd.


6 posted on 10/19/2014 3:05:26 PM PDT by PAR35
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erdogan needs to be assassinated


7 posted on 10/19/2014 3:08:39 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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8 posted on 10/19/2014 3:17:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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“...The main Syrian Kurdish group defending the strategic border town of Kobani against an ISIS assault is the Democratic Union Party (PYD), a secularist organization...”
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The fact that it is Kurdish is enough to want Turkey to see those defenders destroyed. The fact that they are also “secularist” just adds to the Turkish Islamist Government’s hatred of them and is, IMHO, one of the reasons why the Obama regime (with its stash of Muslim Brotherhood connected individuals in the White House & administration) has been so INCREDIBLY SLOW to allow the American military to provide EFFECTIVE assistance to those Kurds.


9 posted on 10/19/2014 3:22:19 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: House Atreides

I couldn’t agree more, and the MB associated people in the WH is criminal in my view.


10 posted on 10/19/2014 3:25:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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Bingo!



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

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11 posted on 10/19/2014 3:26:50 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in Battle!)
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Erdogan is a snake in the grass. He hates the Kurds and will not be a part of any US effort. Turkey has historically been called “ the sick man of Europe” because of its incalcitrance in behaving by anybody’s standards among many other problematic qualities. And to think it is a member of NATO is a joke. Turkey would be a problem in any conflict and now you see why—Erdogan for one.
12 posted on 10/19/2014 3:34:11 PM PDT by Fungi (The bigger the government, the smaller the individual.)
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State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf confirmed that a U.S. official had several days earlier held a first direct meeting with a PYD representative. Although the PKK is a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, Harf said its links to the PYD would not deter the U.S. from meeting with the Syrian Kurdish group. She also said the U.S. was not now arming the PYD, but declined to “rule anything in or out” in that regard. “The PYD is for us equal to the PKK,” Turkey’s Anadolu state news agency quoted Erdogan as saying on Sunday. “It is a terror organization. It would be wrong for the United States, with whom we are friends and allies in NATO, to talk openly and to expect us to say ‘yes’ to such a support to a terrorist organization,” he added. “It cannot expect such a thing from us and we cannot say ‘yes’ to such a thing either.”

13 posted on 10/19/2014 3:38:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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“It would be wrong for the United States, with whom we are friends and allies in NATO, to talk openly and to expect us to say ‘yes’ to such a support to a terrorist organization,”

Well, if you are our friends and allies, then commit to getting rid of ISIS and commit against Islamic extremism.


14 posted on 10/19/2014 3:38:55 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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Turkey will never get the Kurds back to coexistence with Turkey. The image of Turkish troops on a hill, watching ISIS attack Kobane, was just too much.

This reinforces one fact....we are on the wrong side, doing SaudiArabia and Turkeys dirty work to oust Assad.

15 posted on 10/19/2014 3:42:45 PM PDT by grania
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To: JohnBrowdie
where’s that reset button?

Last time I saw it, Putin had it. But maybe in fit of humor he gave it to Iran?

16 posted on 10/19/2014 3:45:14 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama wants to wage war by measuring it out in teaspoons - Ralph Peters)
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“It would be wrong for the United States, with whom we are friends and allies in NATO

I spent some time at Incirlik. I was never under the impression that the Turks were even friends, let alone allies. I thought the worst part of being in Turkey, was dealing with Turks.

17 posted on 10/19/2014 3:58:50 PM PDT by Mark17 (MAs & PAs Broke busted, disgusted, liberals can't be trusted, throw the bastards into the sea)
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To: jazusamo

The Turks and the Arabs are proving that the Kurds are right to demand independence.


18 posted on 10/19/2014 4:10:51 PM PDT by marron
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To: jazusamo

19 posted on 10/19/2014 4:15:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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whoops.
20 posted on 10/19/2014 4:16:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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