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Supreme Court Overturns Illegal Immigrant’s ID Theft Conviction (2009)
judicialwatch ^ | MAY 04, 2009 | judicialwatch

Posted on 10/21/2014 6:10:29 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: dennisw

So any illegal can just say, “I didn’t know”? And of course, we can count on them to be honest...after they slithered across our border like thieves in the night. What happened to “ignorance of the law is no excuse”? I guess that only applies to Americans.


101 posted on 10/21/2014 10:59:54 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Even Heaven has a gate.)
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To: moehoward

Jose and Pedro know what they are doing is illegal. That is all anyone needs to know to convict.


102 posted on 10/21/2014 1:46:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Highly likely that this guy knew the number was fraudulent. Maybe the DA should have charged* him appropriately.

*For the record I have no idea, maybe he was charged with multiple counts and it was just the theft charge the Court rightly tossed.


103 posted on 10/21/2014 2:02:03 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: dennisw
Illinois steal plant

Must be in Chicago...

104 posted on 10/21/2014 2:51:02 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: dennisw

Thinking logically, if one knows the identification data they are using is NOT THEIRS, then why is it not identity theft when it happens to be someone else’s (as opposed to fictitious)?

The law is an ass.


105 posted on 10/21/2014 2:52:57 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: dennisw
Can someone somehow explain the legal reasoning behind this. How this critter is not guilty of stealing someones SS number? Thanks!

He could argue that, for all he knew, the number he bought was simply made up and belonged to nobody. Therefore, no theft. The burden of proving otherwise is on the prosecution.

Employers are supposed to receive "no-match" letters from the Social Security Administration informing them of any employees they may have whose SSN's do not match with their names. However, as you can see from the link, the 'Rats made sure the process of resolving do-not-matches is complex and subjects the employer to legal risk. We wouldn't want employers actually catching illegals, would we?

106 posted on 10/21/2014 3:15:38 PM PDT by cynwoody
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