Politico: Conservative Stand Against Obama's Executive Amnesty Leaves White House in Disarray

Breitbart ^ | 11-14-2014 | Matthew Boyle

[Night Hides Not]

Great post as usual, nb. The real leadership in the Senate will come from three men: Cruz, Lee, and Sessions. Newcomers will hopefully join up with them and keep McConnell in check.

O/T, I noticed that it's warmer in Traben-Trarbach, my home for four years during my tour in Germany. I thought I was done with cold weather when I came back to Texas, instead we've been having really chilly falls and winters the last several years.

[Alas Babylon!]

Good post except one small correction:

They have to be forced by the likes of Ted Cruz Jeff Sessions.

Let's give Jeff some respect along with Ted's!

BTW, Senator Sessions is becoming a real leader on this issue. He has momentum with a lot of fellow Senators and Representatives, and they're not going to back down. McConnell and Boehner will bend to their collective will if they wish to remain "leaders".

[FreedBird]

Should Obama declare war on the American People by taking an action that is clearly not legal, he should be punished
through the Congress, by not funding his illegal actions.
He is like a spoiled child, who needs to be punished for his illegal actions. Also, we are tired of the media giving him a free ride for political and financial reasons.

[arthurus]

Boehner, McConnell, and McCarthy are all Democrats who have been assigned by the Democrat Party the task of managing its wholly owned subsidiary.

[Mouton]

The basic problem here is money runs DC through lobbyists, access, bribery, and the ability to buy air time. That is why we have what we have: 4 perennial leaders in both parties neither wishing to give up their strangleholds all picking their committee chiefs who follow in lock step to keep the ball rolling. In this mix, the people are on the outside looking in unless their views parallel what the money interests want. The benefactors btw don't just include big business, they include the myriad number of large groups like the enviormental nazi’s, teacher unions, and health groups like insurers and medical associations. These groups will not support any third party grass roots movements because these groups have no access and are mostly one item platforms. I think the best a third party presidential party has done ever is about 10%. Aside from a few congressional individuals who run as “socialists or independents” but who are nothing buy democrats, they have no chance of winning without the money, it is that simple.

After all that, my point is this: unions used to be against unbridled immigration. They changed. Rush pointed this out yesterday in response to a question. IMO, the GOP will go along with his majesty on this one because there now exists no moneyed interest fighting it. They will rant and rage but at the end of the day it will be a done deal.

I suspect the winds of revolution maybe in the air soon.

[nathanbedford]

Agreed.

[Travis McGee]

[arthurus]

If the Conservatives succeed in asserting themselves against the Sultan the next battle is over in the USSC. Heavy pressure will be exerted on the turncoat Roberts, who aspires to be the Earl Warren of this generation, to strike down anything the Congress does against the Sultan’s will. Of course none of this matters so long as the EPA and all the other agencies outside of the original 4 Departments exist.

[nathanbedford]

Last winter was the mildest I've experienced here in Germany in years. I hope the pattern continues past this fall which has also been mild down here near the Alps.

The warm pattern only reinforces my neighbors' conviction that global warming is about to melt the world but, of course, were it colder than normal they would be equally confirmed in their beliefs by calling it climate change. Climate change and fracking are two subjects I have come to avoid here.

About two weeks ago I printed out articles concerning United States government studies which found no (repeat, no) evidence of harm to the environment or drinking water anywhere in America from fracking. The reaction? The American government lies.

The government lies when it finds against its own political interests (this was an Obama administration finding) but Roger Moore is gospel.

[arthurus]

Boehner's been under attack for years already.

Beaten about the head and shoulders by electing them to the 2014 Leadership positions. The only way B&Mc could be neutralized now is with blackmail or extortion by credibly threatening their families and wealth but the Sultan and his minions effectively have the more powerful hand in that enterprise.

[savedbygrace]

“What they don’t have the ability to do is to expect me to stand by with a broken system in perpetuity.”

Which he played a significant and intentional role in breaking.

[bert]

A few of these properly deployed will be cheaper and more effective

[MamaDearest]

If Boehner and McConnell do nothing to stop Obama's amnesty, they will be seen as they are now seen to be equally complicit with amnesty as Obama himself.

Citizens in the heartland of America are opposed to amnesty with just about every breath in their bodies. Obama is, by his threats, widely considered a thug and a usurper of the Constitution and Rule of Law. If they do not defund everything he does from here on in for the next two years (giving him a taste of his own medicine), they will let down every voter who voted republicans into office and will doom whatever candidate they choose for 2016.

The recent election wins were from voters intent on stopping Obama in his tracks before he damages America any further. They have two years to show they have the right people at the front of the GOP to do it. We have existing immigration laws being totally ignored and about which nothing is said or done. Border patrol agents are sharing weapons for Pete's sake. Republicans have the ability to call out Obama, defund his agenda and make Americans cheer them on - whether they do it or not depends on how serious they are about wanting a Republican in office in 2016.

[Mears]

Thanks Liz.

That is very helpful for those of us who are not as politically astute as most Freepers.

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[arthurus]

he ensures leftist administrations for a generation

I fear it will be a lot more than a getneration. If he gets that done, the Left does not need to look over its shoulder at the Constitution ever again. The worst (because most immediate) scenario is the successful conferral of Amnesty and green cards on 11+ million wetbacks. If that goes down then he knows that there is no longer any effective resistance to anything he does and the next step is fiat Citizenship to ALL the foreigners in the country. Then the Sultan has an overwhelming majority and can do no wrong. The importation of Moslems will then go into high gear. It only takes another 10 million of them to set this country on an irreversible course toward the Umma. Arabs, especially, in a system with modern Western medicine, will outbreed everyone else by 7 or 8 to one and bring relatives over in a chain the likes of which the Guats could only envy..

[Jabba the Nutt]

B + Mc have been under attack by conservatives/tea partiers/libertarians etc for years. They don't have a majority of GOP members of Congress, so they can't elect other leadership.

Second, B + Mc are following their sincerely held views in the immigration issue, ie amnesty first, border security maybe. I don't believe they've been bullied, bribed or extorted in order to hold those views. In fact, they've complained bitterly of being forced by the majority of the GOP base to hold off on passing "immigration reform". McConnell promised to destroy the Tea Party for this and other reasons.

I'm not sure what you're saying with your comment. B + Mc don't think like we do. The come to that naturally by making their careers inside the Beltway decade after decade.

[Alas Babylon!]

CBS News Poll. July 29-Aug. 4, 2014. N=1,344 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.
"Which should be the higher priority now: securing the nation's border, or addressing the status of illegal immigrants currently in the U.S.?" Options rotated
		Securing the border	Status of illegal immigrants	Both (vol.)	Neither (vol.)	Unsure/ No answer
		%	%	%	%	%
	7/29 - 8/4/14	59	31	5	-	4
	5/16-19/14	55	37	4	1	3
	10/18-21/13	50	43	5	1	2
	7/18-22/13	56	37	5	1	1
	7/29 - 8/4/14	18	40	19	17	5

  The people haven't really changed. They want border security FIRST. We have been consistent on this issue while our so-called leaders have not. It is time to enforce border security.

This also applies to people flying in and overstaying their visa or simply not returning. They can certainly track who is not returning if they choose to.

[Alas Babylon!]

Last date in this poll is from another question. Improper formatting on my part, sorry. Still wishing we had an edit function since 1998!!!

[jetson]

Immigration reform? Yeah well let’s start way back at the beginning where there are laws in the books about immigration and go from there.

[Jabba the Nutt]

"Peter Breggin reported that the liberals, much less the leftists, never read anything to their right." and ""And, I would add, have no enemies to their left. Republicans, on the other hand, loathe the Tea Party." actually work together. The Tea Party is to the right of the Republicans and the elected Republicans also have no enemies to their left.

Obola is just politics as usual for Boehner and McConnell, the don't see anything uniquely dangerous about the guy. McConnell and Boehner are only p-o'ed with Obola in that he makes it so difficult for them to make deals, because of the rabid base of the GOP will get up in arms over "executive amnesty".

Boehner didn't say that Obola's "executive amnesty" was illegal, unconstitutional or tyrannical, he said that 'it would poison the well to come to a later agreement on immigration'. Not even poison the well of our constitutional order, or poison the well of the rule of law and respect for the law by Americans or even poison the well to make deals on other issues beyond immigration.

Boehner's warning to Obola was only about getting Congress to pass Obola's desires on immigration. Really? That's it, Mr. Speaker? That's really going to scare Obola off from his criminal activities. NOT!