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6 ALLIED ARMIES JOIN IN GREAT OFFENSIVE BEHIND RECORD BARRAGE BY 2,350 BOMBERS (11/17/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 11/17/44 | Drew Middleton, Henry T. Gorrell, James MacDonald, Sydney Gruson, Lindesay Parrott, more

Posted on 11/17/2014 4:15:18 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles and the occasional radio broadcast delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread.
1 posted on 11/17/2014 4:15:18 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Battle for Northern Entrance to Ormoc Valley, 16 November-14 December 1944 (from 32d Infantry Division website)
The Philippine Islands: Leyte Island and the Visayas, 1944 – Sixth Army Operations on Leyte and Samar, 17 October-30 December 1944
Northwestern Europe, 1944: 6th and 12th Army Group Operations, 8 November-15 December 1944
Northwestern Europe, 1944: 21st Army Group Operations, 15 September-15 December 1944
Eastern Europe, 1941: Russian Balkan and Baltic Campaigns – Operations, 19 August-31 December 1944
Northern Italy 1944: Allied Advance to Gothic Line, 5 June-25 August and Gains 29 August-31 December
China, 1941: Operation Ichigo, April-December 1944 and Situation 31 December
China-Burma, 1941: Third Burma Campaign – Slim’s Offensive, June 1944-March 1945
2 posted on 11/17/2014 4:17:27 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The Nimitz Graybook

3 posted on 11/17/2014 4:19:19 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Continued from yesterday.

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John Toland, The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945

4 posted on 11/17/2014 4:20:24 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, Triumph and Tragedy

5 posted on 11/17/2014 4:20:54 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
Push for the Rhine (Middleton) – 2-4
Storm of Steel Rocks Earth, Stampedes Horses at Front (Gorrell) – 4
Dutch Mayor Bares Town Hall Massacre; 135, Led to Shelter by Foe, are Dynamited – 5
People in Meijel Hug Their Cellars (MacDonald) – 5
8,000 Tons Dropped (Gruson) – 5
U.S. Troops Seize Isles off Biak and Melt Phantom Tokyo Victory (Parrott) – 6
Americans Draw Leyte Trap on Foe – 6
Manila Toll Rises to 16 Vessels Sunk – 7
Kalemyo Captured by Allies in Burma – 7
Stilwell Praises ‘Team Play’ of GI’s (by Lawrence E. Davies) – 8
The General at His Home in California (photo) * – 8
Strategy and Politics (by Hanson W. Baldwin) – 9
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the Fighting in Various War Zones – 10-12
Russian Sickle Swings Closer to Besieged Budapest (map) – 12

* Here is another picture of that home. This is from the side without the spectacular view of the Pacific looking across to Point Lobos.

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6 posted on 11/17/2014 4:22:04 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://onwar.com/chrono/1944/nov44/17nov44.htm

Germans withdraw eastward
Friday, November 17, 1944 www.onwar.com

German armored column on the western front [photo at link]

On the Western Front... Around Aachen, both US 1st and 9th Armies advance. To the right, German forces facing US 3rd and 7th Armies conduct withdrawals after which the American forces advance. On the right flank of the Allied line, the French 1st Army reaches Montbeliard in its drive to Belfort.

In the China Sea... The USS Spadefish sinks the Japanese fleet carrier Junyo.

In Liberated Belgium... Allied representatives meet with Belgian government ministers and agree to try to have the resistance members surrender their arms.


7 posted on 11/17/2014 4:23:03 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.etherit.co.uk/month/10/17.htm

November 17th, 1944 (FRIDAY)

UNITED KINGDOM: Submarine HMS Spur launched.

WESTERN EUROPE: Thirty USAAF Ninth Air Force bombers of the 9th Bombardment Division hit Haguenau, France; weather prevents over 100 bombers from attacking targets; fighters escort bombers, fly patrol and armed reconnaissance over a wide area of western Germany, and support the US 104th and 4th Infantry Divisions and 2d Armored Division, east of Aachen and near Hurtgen, Germany.
BELGIUM: Allied representatives meet with Belgian ministers over their differences with the resistance.

FRANCE: The French offensive near Belfort reaches Montbeliad. Both the US 3rd and 7th Armies advance in the wake of German withdrawals.

In the U.S. Third Army’s XX Corps area, the 10th Armored Division fans out to pursue the Germans toward the Sarre River, closely supported by aircraft. The 357th Infantry Regiment, 90oth Infantry Division, cleans out the Hackenberg fortifications, which are found leveled by direct fire, and takes Klang; the 358th Infantry seizes Metzeresche. The Germans begin withdrawing in front of the division after nightfall. Task Force Bacon, 95th Infantry Division, gets almost to Metz, stopping for the night within sight of Fort St Julien. West of the Moselle River, the 95th Infantry Division continues toward Metz, the 377th Infantry Regiment reaching the suburb of Sansonnet. Against weakened resistance, the 5th Infantry Division continues northward toward Metz: the 11th Infantry Regiment clears most of Frescaty Airfield, but is stopped on the right by fire from Fort St Privat; the 10th Infantry is halted at Fort Queuleu but gets patrols to the city limits; the 2d Infantry withdr

aws elements east of the Nied Française River in order to strengthen the drive on the right flank of the division and pushes northward beyond Frontigny.

In the U.S. Seventh Army’s XV Corps area, Avricourt falls to the 44th Infantry Division. The 79th Infantry Division reaches the Vezouse River line in the Blmont-Cirey area and begins crossing. Combat Command B, French 2d Armored Division, seizes Badonviller, near the junction of XV and VI Corps front, and pushes on to Bremenil. In the VI Corps area, the 100th Infantry Division prepares for a full-scale attack on Raon from the north, the 398th Infantry Regiment crossing the Meurthe River at Baccarat. The 103d Infantry Division finishes clearing the heights southwest of St Die; during the night of 17/18 November, patrols into St Die, from which the Germans are withdrawing. 36th Infantry Division patrols enter Corcieux, where the Germans have already applied the torch.

In the French First Army’s Western French Forces area, General René-Marie de Larminat, commander of Detachément Altantique, organizes Forces Francaises de l’Ouest (FFO) to safeguard the coast of Bay of Biscay from Isle de Re and La Rochelle on the north to Royan and Pointe de Grave on the south. The command post has recently moved from Paris to Cognac. The I Corps breaks through the outer defenses of Belfort along the line of the Lisaine and Gland Rivers. Among towns taken are Héricourt, Montbéliard, and Hérimoncourt.

NETHERLANDS: In the British Second Army area, XII Corps gets forward elements to the Maas River across from Roermond and takes Wessem.

GERMANY: The US 1st and 9th Armies gain ground near Aachen.

In the U.S. First Army’s VII Corps area, the 104th Infantry Division, renewing their effort to advance its right wing with a heavy volume of fire support, is still firmly opposed from the Donnerberg and makes slow progress, although Birkengang is largely cleared. Task Force Mills of Combat Command B, 3d Armored Division, gains a weak hold on the southern part of Hastenrath and Scherpenseel, but since its flank is exposed by the failure of 104th Infantry Division to advance, is precariously situated; German fire from the Eschweilcr Woods and the Donnerberg takes heavy toll of Combat Command B’s armor, which by nightfall is at half its original strength. In the1st Infantry Division sector, the 47th Infantry Regiment eliminates German rear-guard opposition from Gressenich; the 16th Infantry Regiment, with tank support, advances almost to Hamich while the 26th Infantry gains a few hundred yards to the right. The Germans continue to contain the efforts of the 4th Infantry

Division to advance through the Huertgen Forest.

In the U.S. Ninth Army’s XIX Corps area, Combat Command B, 2d Armored Division, withstands determined counterattacks against Immendorf and Puffendorf but loses a hill northeast of the latter; another attempt to take Apweiler fails; Combat Command A commits Task Force A to drive through Puffendorf toward Ederen but cannot get beyond Puffendorf. The 29th Infantry Division employs a battalion of the 116th Infantry Regiment, attached to the 115th Infantry Regiment, against Setterich, on the main highway and needed to support tanks of 2d Armored Division, but is unable to take it; nor do assault forces to the south succeed in clearing either Siersdorf or Bettendorf. The 30th Infantry Division makes progress in the heavily built up area on the southern flank of the corps, taking the village of Heengen on north and on the south clearing the rest of Wuerselen and overrunning Broichweiden.

One hundred seventeen USAAF Fifteenth Air Force B-24 Liberators bomb the I.G. Farben synthetic oil refinery at Blechhammer with the loss of one aircraft.

U-1307 commissioned.

AUSTRIA: Two hundred two USAAF Fifteenth Air Force B-24 Liberators bomb the Floridsdorf oil refinery in Vienna. Other targets hit in Austria are: 14 bomb the industrial area at Leoben, 11 each hit the railroad at St. Johann and the marshalling yard at Villach, four attack Vocklmarkt, and nine aircraft bomb other targets. A second raid by 117 B-17 Flying Fortresses hit the Main marshalling yard at Salzburg with the loss of one aircraft.

HUNGARY: USAAF Fifteenth Air Force B-24 Liberators bomb two targets: 66 hit the marshalling yard at Gyor with the loss of two B-24s and one bombs Varoslod.

ITALY: In the British Eighth Army’s Polish II Corps area, hard fighting develops on Mt. Fortino, north of Converselle, which the Germans lose and then regain in a counterattack.

USAAF Twelfth Air Force medium bombers hit rail bridges and viaducts in the northeast, concentrating on the Brenner Pass where ground haze and smoke screen at the Avisio viaduct hamper the attacks; fighter-bombers of the XXII Tactical Air Command cut rail lines, hit larger concentrations of railroad cars, and blast several ammunition and fuel dumps north of the battleline below Bologna; fighter-bombers closely supporting ground forces also hit guns and other military targets in battle area.

During the night of 17/18 November, RAF aircraft of No. 205 (Heavy Bomber) Group bomb two airfields: 35 bomb Vicenza Airfield and 34 bomb the Main airfield at Udine.

ALBANIA: German resistance ends in the capital Tiranë.

YUGOSLAVIA: For the first time in several months, USAAF Twelfth Air Force medium bombers attack targets in Yugoslavia, hitting bridges along the Brod-Zagreb-Maribor railroad.

USAAF Fifteenth Air Force B-24 Liberators attack two targets: 30 bomb the marshalling yard at Maribor with the loss of one aircraft and one bombs the railroad at Dravograde.

During the night of 17/18 November, 13 RAF bombers of No. 205 (Heavy Bomber) Group bomb a highway choke point at Novi Pasar.

CHINA: From the Kweilin-Liuchow area, the Japanese begin a drive on Kweiyang, possession of which would open way to Kunming, the Hump terminus, and Chungking, the capital.

Fifteen USAAF Fourteenth Air Force B-25 Mitchells, in flights of two or three each, attack gun positions, storage areas, and village and town areas north of Chuchou, west of Nanyo, and at Chefang and Nanyo and south of Hpalen, Burma; also a bridge at Tingka is knocked out. Over 100+ P-40s and P-51 Mustangs hit targets of opportunity throughout southeast and southwest China, concentrating on the Mangshih and Changsha areas.

HONG KONG: Three USAAF Fourteenth Air Force B-24 Liberators bomb Kowloon Docks.

BURMA: Thirty three USAAF Tenth Air Force P-47 Thunderbolts hit troop and vehicle concentrations and supply areas at Manlu, Loi-Lum, Nawngmoloi, and Kyaukme; ten P-47s support ground forces in the northern Burma railroad corridor near Meza; 16 others sweep the rail line from Hsipaw to Sedaw hitting rolling stock, gun positions and other targets of opportunity while three bomb the Meza railroad station; and 16 others strafe airfields at Nawnghkio, Anisakan, and Onbauk. Nine B-25 Mitchells bomb bridges at Lashio, knocking out a bypass bridge and damaging others; several machinegun positions are silenced in the bridge area.

CHINA SEA: The IJN carrier Junyo is sunk by the US submarine Spadefish.

JAPAN: Four USAAF Eleventh Air Force B-24 Liberators bomb Suribachi Airfield on Paramushiru Island in the Kurile Islands. Two fighters intercept and damage a B-24 which force-lands on Kamchatka, USSR.

PHILIPPINE ISLANDS: In the U.S. Sixth Army’s X Corps area on Leyte, a battalion of the 128th Infantry Regiment, 32d Infantry Division, gets to within 500 yards (457 meters) of Limon, but the 1st Battalion is still held up by the Japanese on the slopes of Corkscrew Ridge.

USAAF Far East Air Forces (FEAF) B-24 Liberators bomb Sanbon Field at Legaspi on the southeastern tip of Luzon Island; on Mindanao Island, B-24 Liberators bomb Sasa and Likanan Airfields; other B-24 Liberators and B-25 Mitchells fly heckling missions over the central Philippine Islands and Mindanao Island. .

EAST INDIES: In the Netherlands East Indies, USAAF Far East Air Forces B-25 Mitchells fly heckling missions over northeastern Celebes Island.

NEW GUINEA: In Dutch New Guinea, USAAF Far East Air Forces B-25 Mitchells continue to support ground forces on Mapia Island.

BONIN ISLANDS: Fifteen USAAF Seventh Air Force B-24 Liberators, flying a shipping strike out of Saipan Island, attack vessels southwest of Muko Jima Island and the attack harbor and town of Okimura.

Project MIKE continues as USAAF B-24s lay eight mines in effective locations in Futami Ko, Chichi Jima.

PACIFIC OCEAN: In the Philippine Sea, a USN TBM Avenger of Composite Squadron Eight Two (VC 82) in the escort aircraft carrier USS Anzio (CVE-57) and destroyer escort USS Lawrence C. Taylor (DE-415) sink Japanese submarine HIJMS I-26 about 345 nautical miles (638 kilometers) east-northeast of Tacloban, Leyte, Philippine Islands, in position 12.44N, 130.42E.

In the East China Sea, USN Submarine USS Spadefish (SS-411) sinks Japanese escort aircraft carrier HIJMS Shinyo about 153 nautical miles (283 kilometers) northeast of Shanghai, China, in position 33.02N, 123.33E.

CANADA: Frigate HMCS Glace Bay and corvette HMCS Parry Sound departed St. John’s, for Londonderry, escorting sub chasers.

U.S.A.: The Combined Chiefs of Staff approve the proposal of Admiral Louis Mountbatten, Supreme Allied Commander South East Asia Command (SEAC), made in late October to clear the Arakan, Burma area along the northeast coast of the Bay of Bengal; reject the Kra Isthmus operation in the north central section of southwestern Thailand; and ask for a plan to develop the Cocos Islands in the Indian Ocean as a staging base.

Submarine USS Lamprey commissioned.

Destroyer USS John R Craig laid down.


8 posted on 11/17/2014 4:24:23 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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"Operation Queen." Another plan resulting in another slugging match.

Mr. niteowl77

9 posted on 11/17/2014 4:30:43 AM PST by niteowl77 (The five stages of Progressive persuasion: lecture, nudge, shove, arrest, liquidate.)
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The IJN carrier Junyo is sunk by the US submarine Spadefish.

From now on, the remaining scattered pieces of the once powerful IJN will be hunted down and destroyed.

10 posted on 11/17/2014 10:23:22 AM PST by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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Wow...... really love these history threads ...thank you.


11 posted on 11/17/2014 11:30:35 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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Drew Middleton has been immersed within the war for awhile: “450 miles as the bomber flies.”


12 posted on 11/17/2014 12:11:05 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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DETACHMENT is Iwo Jima and ICEBERG is Okinawa. Yesterday, Nimitz referenced a conference he will conduct with POA Army commanders to determine the availability of service units, which will in turn drive the disposition of POA Army units. Once again, logistics is the key factor.

It seems planning for Iwo and Okinawa is well under way.

13 posted on 11/17/2014 3:46:18 PM PST by colorado tanker
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DETACHMENT is Iwo Jima and ICEBERG is Okinawa.

Thanks for pointing that out. That item had gone right over my head. I will watch for those code words going forward.

14 posted on 11/17/2014 3:53:48 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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As with most all things, the house has changed quite a bit since the General and his wife moved in after his return from China.
I remember seeing an old newsreel of the press flocking to his gate when he returned.
He talked to them a long time while keeping them outside his yard...lol.
15 posted on 11/18/2014 3:23:39 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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