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To: steve86

Years ago I remember reading that Americans consume more calcium than almost any other nation, yet our rates of osteoporosis and such were among the highest. Clearly, something other than milk/calcium plays a part in weak bones and bone density.


6 posted on 11/17/2014 4:33:48 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

Vitamin D and K.

We spend far too much time indoors and not exercising.


9 posted on 11/17/2014 4:37:10 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: workerbee

Vitamin D. It controls how much calcium your body can process, with D deficiency you can consume nothing but pure calcium and you’ll still have brittle bones. And with the way modern America fears the sun we don’t get enough D. It’s why most calcium pill also have D, that’s actually the part most folks need.


16 posted on 11/17/2014 4:40:39 PM PST by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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To: workerbee
Risk factors for osteoporosis are known. Milk consumption or lack of it is not one of them.
25 posted on 11/17/2014 4:50:55 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: workerbee

It is called “vitamin D”. This ain’t rocket Science.


62 posted on 11/17/2014 5:44:28 PM PST by acapesket
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To: workerbee; steve86; All
Years ago I remember reading that Americans consume more calcium than almost any other nation, yet our rates of osteoporosis and such were among the highest. Clearly, something other than milk/calcium plays a part in weak bones and bone density.

I am beginning to think that "Americans consume" massive quantities of things that are, in context, wholly alien to the body and we're seeing a total confused mess result. The farther away we get from simple food the way God made it, to bastardized man-made junk like Crisco and margarine (hydrogenized vegetable fats) and carbonated liquids out the ying-yang, not to mention nutso sugars like high-fructose corn syrup (as opposed to cane sugar) --

-- folks who eat "normal" in America are screwed up six ways to Sunday because their bodies are receiving "designer nutrition" created by food manufacturers and so-called health experts and scientists. But the human body doesn't process hydrogenized vegetable fat the same way it does butter or oil or animal fat. Shortening is down right BAD for you, physically, it turns out. I stopped using it and switched to lard years ago. Cholesterol levels in the household are fine, incidentally.

The healthiest people I know eat very, very simply, and not only eat simple vegetables and fruit and basic grains and bread, but also eat all the stuff that "conventional wisdom" used to say, or still says, isn't good for you -- meat, eggs, animal fat, dairy if they're lucky enough to be among the mere 40 percent or even less of humans on earth who are lactose tolerant. (I love my dairy! It's a nutritional short-cut that I cherish.)

People who appear healthy but who have chronic health issues, are folks who eat quite a lot of ready-made food, including "healthful" processed (and appropriately marketed!) stuff that's supposed to be better than what God provided.

So very puzzling in the locker room at the gym, where you see young women in their 20s and 30s who are not fat, but who are sludged over with cellulite. Something is going on there -- whatever it is that's causing that, I have ingested enough myself to get a tiny bit of cellulite. It's very odd.

Personally, nowadays for me and more and more healthy folks I know, it's rendered lard (it can actually lower cholesterol), butter, olive oil, meat, dairy, eggs, vegetables and fruit canned, fresh, or frozen; rice, beans, potatoes, some flour, some bread, (on the other hand, I'll eat all the oatmeal you put my way), and sweets you can make out of any or all of the above.

They are all simple foods more or less as God put on this earth from the start.

Vegan diets, with zero animal protein from either meat or dairy, nor even honey (bees are IN honey, basically), will kill a human child. Human children will DIE if forced to subsist on a vegan diet. Adult vegans survive ONLY because they were not vegan as children and/or because they are supplemented by man-made contrived nutritional boosters. That's stupid.

It's chemistry. We don't get to choose what kind of diet is good for us. It's already been decided.

65 posted on 11/17/2014 6:03:05 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: workerbee

Osteoporisis is caused in part by the carbonation in soda pop. I believe that is a big cause of osteo in Americans.


88 posted on 11/17/2014 8:02:57 PM PST by T-Bone Texan (The time is now to form up into leaderless cells of 5 men or less.)
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To: workerbee; Texas Eagle

One theory is that the protein in milk leeches out the calcium in bones.

Americans are the only country who buy what the US Dept of Agriculture, an organization with, if not ulterior motives, a conflict of interest, tells people what to eat.

Wacko

WE are the only ones who drink milk in this way.

The Euros have dairy intake, cheese baked stuff, milk in coffee. And it’s not pasteurized, which is all about commerce.

Asians don’t dream of drinking milk.

They don’t have male pattern baldness, heart disease, osteoporosis to the extent that we do.

None of these countries think about the widespread obesity we find so acceptable.

Cows milk is not human breast milk.

Nor is formula, for that matter, which gets into a whole huge discussion.

Cows milk is for baby cows.

Bacon, eggs, the rest, butter....they get a terrible rap.

They are good food, especially when they are from quality free range distributors,

Good fat is good. Not to be mixed with refined sugar, which develops paste.

(Paleo diet)

Milk is food for baby cows.

What do they eat for calcium?


101 posted on 11/17/2014 9:01:13 PM PST by stanne
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To: workerbee

Magnesium.


106 posted on 11/17/2014 10:23:27 PM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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