Gruber earned millions at federal, state levels (video trail of deceit grows longer)

FOXNEWS.COM ^ | 11/17/14 | James Rosen, chief Washington correspondent; hosts online "The Foxhole."

[Liz]

In one of Gruber's more infamous numbers crunching operations for the Clinton administration---Gruber equated the legalization of abortion w/ lower crime rates and economic progress

Bill Clinton was gleefully touting Gruber's mathematical sleight of hand this past week...laying the groundwork for 2016 Hillary:

CLINTON: "We had 100 times as many people move from poverty into the middle class," Bill Clinton told an appreciative audience during a cocktail hour hosted by POLITICO, marking the 10th anniversary of the Clinton Presidential Center. "This shows the importance of policy," he continued. "We can do this again.”

Clinton thinks Americans are stupid. He plumb "forgot" MIT Professor Jonathan Gruber crunched those numbers for the ever-ambitious Clintons....basing the numbers on the Clintons' knee-bending abortion worship. Read on.

=========================================

World Net Daily reported November 14, 2014
BY Jerome R. Corsi / FR Posted by Cincinatus' Wife

NEW YORK – Obamacare architect, Jonathan Gruber, (exposed for his frank admissions that passing Obama's signature legislation required lying to "stupid" Americans)......published a paper during the Clinton administration observing that legalizing abortion saved the government $14B in assistance to economically disadvantaged mothers, including African Americans.....and lowered crime.

MIT economics professor Jonathan Gruber argued in his Clinton paper that without the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, “marginal children” would have been born to many poor mothers. Gruber said statistics show these aborted children would have been 70 percent more likely to live in a single-parent family, 40 percent more likely to live in poverty, 50 percent more likely to receive welfare and 35 percent more likely to die as an infant.

Economist Steven D. Levitt and journalist Stephen J. Dubner in their bestselling 2005 book, “Freakonomics,” relied on MIT Professor Jonathan Gruber’s work to argue that legalizing abortion was responsible for an approximately 50 percent reduction of crime in major urban centers in the early 1990s. more at wnd.com

[Cowboy Bob]

You mean our overlords have nothing but disdain for us???

[Jim Noble]

He did his job well.

He was underpaid.

[Cowboy Bob]

I wonder if Gruber also has the contract for doing the unemployment rate?

[DeaconRed]

"You mean our overlords have nothing but disdain for us??? "

As our buddy Gomer would say:

SURPRISE! SURPRISE! SURPRISE!

[DainBramage]

MIT economics professor Jonathan Gruber argued in his Clinton paper that without the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, “marginal children” would have been born to many poor mother

Okay Dr Gruber...do us a study on how bringing in underachieving, under educated, and under vaccinated illegal aliens jibes with your numbers?

[Gaffer]

Yes, he’s been rather prolific. However, I think there’s a side to this that should be investigated under FOIA, specifically with respect to the proposals/RFQ responses he’d have had to submit to get all these ‘consulting’ contracts awarded. I’ve mentioned this two or three times here on FR, but no one seems to think anything about it.

My point, from my own experience being a research employee with a University and doing government contracts is that regardless of sole source, IDIQ, Cost Reimbursement, Cost Plus Award Fee, Fixed Price, whatever type of contract some accounting instrument has to be given that details the equipment costs, labor rates paid, their buildup with OH and G&A, Fees, and the like. To arrive at a final cost number for ‘consulting’, usually an estimated number of hours would be assumed. It is in these numbers is where I’ll bet he assumed a full-time equivalent effort (i.e., full time during the period). Some of these efforts were concurrent (with government and state agencies).

If I were an auditor, I’d be asking him how he worked full-time on all those simultaneous efforts? Which contracting entity did he screw? The government or the state(s)?

Lastly, I also believe he played some loose hanky panky with his University’s Conflict of Interest and Intellectual Property rules. If he did not, then I guess MIT could be responsible for his actions wouldn’t they?

[Liz]

.....auditors should be asking Gruber how he worked full-time on all those simultaneous efforts? Which contracting entity did he screw? The government or the state(s)?

Nice deconstruction.

==============================================

I also believe Gruber played hanky-panky with MIT's Conflict of Interest and Intellectual Property rules. If he did not, then I guess MIT could be responsible for his actions wouldn’t they?

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology is a $2 billion non-profit corporation. The Institute’s revenue includes tuition and gifts, as well as a significant amount of funding from external research sponsors, including the federal government, industrial sponsors and foundations. .

The research enterprise can be characterized by a “cradle to grave” process. This process begins with a concept or idea that is turned into a proposal, followed by an award, the performance of the project, and several other steps that ultimately lead to the closeout process. Understanding the entire process will help you to become a more effective research administrator.

The Principal Investigator (PI) has overall responsibility for the technical and fiscal management of a sponsored project, including the management of the project within funding limitations, and assuring that the sponsor will be notified when significant conditions related to the project status change. While responsibility for the day to day management of project finances may be delegated to administrative or other staff, accountability for compliance with MIT policy and sponsor requirements ultimately rests with the PI.--snip--

MIT Office of Sponsored Programs
77 Massachusetts Avenue, Bldg. NE18-901
Cambridge, MA 02139

EMAIL osp@mit.e

WEB SITE http://osp.mit.edu/grant-and-contract-administration

[txrefugee]

What a fraud. MIT certainly must be desperate for staff if this con artist is employed there.

[Sherman Logan]

Economist Steven D. Levitt and journalist Stephen J. Dubner in their bestselling 2005 book, “Freakonomics,” relied on MIT Professor Jonathan Gruber’s work to argue that legalizing abortion was responsible for an approximately 50 percent reduction of crime in major urban centers in the early 1990s. more at wnd.com

I personally doubt that the drop in crime over the last 20 years is entirely or even largely due to the legalization of abortion.

However, it is certainly possible, and a logical person will not reject evidence even if it is contrary to his deepest held beliefs.

IOW, that I believe abortion to be morally wrong doesn't mean that killing babies of poor women might not have the effect 15 or 20 years later of reducing crime.

Of course, if true that wouldn't make it right, only indicate that even immoral acts can have positive effects.

To carry this idea to its logical but utterly immoral conclusion, a highly effective way to reduce crime 15 or 20 years from now might be to require compulsory abortion for all black women who become pregnant. After all, no black people, no black crime!

[I want the USA back]

Interesting how anti-capitalist redistributionists get filthy rich off the hard work of normal people.

Communism isn’t about giving power (and money) to the people. It’s about amassing power and crushing the people.

[logic101.net]

This is why he thinks we are stupid; we paid him millions to screw us over.

[philman_36]

Four words...White House visitor log.

Or was it all by phone?

[Liz]

Fox has a copy of the White House visitor log.....and showed close-ups of it on screen.

Hannity also brandished a copy.

[philman_36]

Obama Denies Gruber, but Facts Deny Obama The Daily Caller reports that in an interview with PBS in 2012, Gruber said he had discussed the Cadillac tax with Obama at the White House.

[philman_36]

Smart minds already ahead of me. Thanks.

[philman_36]

(shows how little I watch television) LOL

[Liz]

It's next to impossible to overestimate Gruber's role. Gruber was central to the efforts of Obama, and his lock-stepping Democratic allies, to shove the Progressive poison of Obamacare down the throats of an unwilling citizenry.

================================================ THE PROGRESSIVE POISON OF OBAMA : "The one thing we can’t say is that we did not have a lengthy debate about healthcare in the USA....I think it’s fair to say there was not a provision in the healthcare law that was not extensively debated, was fully transparent (and fully reported).”

Yes, there was a debate---but it was orchestrated by one voice---Jonathan Gruber.

<><> (1) WH sign-in sheets show Gruber went there at least nineteen times.

<><>(2) Gruber, himself, talked about Obama being in the room when the Cadillac tax was invented.

<><> (3) Based on his Obamacare experiences, Gruber took tax dollars from several states to set up Obamacare exchanges....and earned millions of dollars doing so.

<><>(4) Nancy Pelosi is caught on-tape citing Gruber as a reliable source.

<><> (5) Gruber was there when Hillarycare was developed.

<><>(6) Another Gruber confession involved a conspiracy w/ Teddy Kennedy---using govt fraud to manipulate Medicare for some $500 million----to secretly finance Romneycare.

<><>(7) A former adviser to then-HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius told the NYT Gruber was on-board whie the govt was formulating the plan.

<><> (8) According BarackObama.com 2012, President Obama's official website, Jon Gruber "helped write Obamacare....w/ specific quotes from Obama tying Mitt Romney to ObamaCare...saying that "RomneyCare" was the model for Obamacare.

<><> (9) The Congressional Budget Office Effectively Used Gruber’s Model to Score Obamacare.

=================================================

One can only imagine the derision and deprecation of Americans in the halls of Congress, and in the WH, as Gruber reprised his "stupid Americans" act to an appreciative audience of lock-stepping Democrats.

Gruber took his "stupid Americans" act nationwide---paid millions of tax dollars to peddle his Progressive poison allover our country.

[bert]

-——Yes, there was a debate——

I would argue there was not really any debate.

Recall if you will the intense efforts here where we contacted numerous congress critters to learn who was writing the law. We never learned. Even local town hall meetings provided no real insight. We certainly didn’t have knowledge Gruber has revealed. ...... because it was secret

I recall watching the Cavuto show every day. (something I would recommend BTW) He showed video of a closed door in the Capitol behind which a senate group was crafting the final bill. I recall a red telephone on Niel’s desk dedicated to the sole purpose of receiving a call either describing the law being made or inviting a conference to review what was in process.

There was no debate

[glorgau]

MIT is _very_ serious about intellectual property. That said, the professors are practically co-owners of the institution. Nothing gets done without running it past the faculty and if there is resistance, it doesn’t happen.