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WHERE'S THE EO? IT'S ALL IN THE CARDS! (Hostage)
vanity | November 21, 2014 | Hostage

Posted on 11/21/2014 1:16:15 PM PST by Hostage

So far there's been no sighting of the Executive Order that was expected to follow from Obama's speech last regarding Executive Amnesty.

Why is this important?

Here's the sequence list to commit to memory:

1. State Governors and State Attorney Generals have legal standing to sue in federal court.

2. A Temporary Federal Restraining Order (TFRO) or a Motion for Federal Preliminary Injunction (FPI) can be filed today and obtained in about a week as part of a larger case filing.

3. Either a TFRO or FPI stops Obama's plan to legalize tens of millions of illegals; how? Stop and shutdown the manufacture of ID CARDS!

4. The ID CARDS are the first step to work permits, SSNs, welfare state benefits including Obamacare signups, etc. and eventually to illegal voter registrations. The ID CARDS are the LYNCHPIN to the entire fraud.

5. Item 1. above has a report that Governors and AGs are waiting for the signed Amnesty EO. Where is it? What if it never comes?

Is a officially signed EO needed? No!

Is there a solicitation for Amnesty ID Cards? Yes, to the tune of 34 million of them. Read here for the solicitation:

federal contracting officers you know are not willing to stick their necks out BUT it only takes one and here are the links that point to one that is already gearing up:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217959/posts

and here is the solicitation:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=20bc202b0a49bbe9f2a705782dba0090

Ronald Slater (802) 872-4645; there you go.

On the above link, download the PDF file and look at page 5:

“The guaranteed minimum for each ordering period is 4,000,000 cards. The estimated maximum for the entire contract is 34,000,000 cards.”

and then page 28 under Statement of Work, last sentence of Section 4 SCOPE:

“In addition, the Contractor shall demonstrate the capability to support potential “surge” in PRC and EAD card demand for up to 9M cards during the initial period of performance to support possible future immigration reform initiative requirements.”

Get that? "SURGE"! "FUTURE IMMIGRATION REFORM INITIATIVE REQUIREMENTS"!

Now it must happen that this SOLICITATION is SQUASHED and that no amount of CARDS above and beyond what Congress has authorized be allowed to be made. If this effort to procure 34 millions CARDS is stopped, Obama’s plan fails.

Now who is lining up for the contract to do this? General Dynamics.

http://www.conservativehq.com/node/18929

GD must be shutdown/shutoff from having anything to do with this.

What can you do? Send this to anyone of political influence that you know and trust.


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To: Southack

All bureacracies are Congressionally funded. The GSA reports to the President and its Administrator is appointed by the President. Here is the current profile of the Administrator:

“Dan Tangherlini was sworn in as Administrator of the U.S. General Services Administration (GSA) on July 5, 2013, following his 15 months of service as the Acting Administrator of GSA. Since joining the agency, he has served a vital role in President Barack Obama’s agenda to build a more sustainable, responsible and effective government for the American people.”

This fellow works for Obama.


41 posted on 11/21/2014 2:22:25 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Southack

Here’s the *actual* card request (gasp, real research!):

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=20bc202b0a49bbe9f2a705782dba0090&_cview=0

Already beat you to it as the link is listed in the original body to this posting and also in Post #4.


42 posted on 11/21/2014 2:25:04 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: skeeter
Maybe because the country is pissed beyond description.

I agree. MSM playing it over and over in the news would just add to the furor. I am 57, and the last time I saw the nation boiling this bad was in 1968. This time instead of a extremely vocal minority, you have a huge percent of the population who is beyond angry. I had to turn it off last night. My wife thought I was going to bust a gasket.

43 posted on 11/21/2014 2:30:15 PM PST by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: Jane Long

“President Obama signed two executive orders on Friday that would delay deportation for millions of illegal immigrants.”

Stupid. They haven’t been and weren’t going to be deported anyway. Why sign an executive order for something that wasn’t happening?


44 posted on 11/21/2014 2:39:37 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

> “Stupid. They haven’t been and weren’t going to be deported anyway. Why sign an executive order for something that wasn’t happening?”

Good point but the EO was for the CARDS.

An ID Card triggers issuance of SSNs and Work Permits, then state IDs and drivers licenses, then Motor-Voter registrations to vote even though they are not citizens.

They will register to vote because that is what Obama’s community organizers such as ACORN will steer them to do. Once they are registered to vote, they will likely be voted by someone else.

The entire scheme is to get millions of illegal votes ready for the 2016 elections.

Once a vote gets into the ballot box and recorded in the system there is almost no way possible to get it back out.


45 posted on 11/21/2014 2:48:09 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Liz; WildHighlander57; Jane Long; ifinnegan; Riflema; Publius

Crosslinking http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3229663/posts?page=45#45

> “REALITY CHECK It is being reported that he will issue orders and not sign an E/O. The Las Vegas rally was billed as the “E/O signing ceremony.” Anybody actually see it?”

Still not on the White House website where all EOs are listed:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

Jane Long posted (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3229699/posts?page=22#22) that Fox News reported Obama signed two EO’s on Air Force One while on the ground in Las Vegas but I don’t think the reporting actually witnessed what was signed. It may have appeared to be EOs. I may be going too far on a limb of cynicism here but then look at this thread that was posted by WildHighlander in #24 above:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3229811/posts

The comments in the above thread could be accurate.

We don’t have the text of the EO yet and Abbott’s office is on record as saying they will file in court as soon as possible after the EO is signed.

Pay close attention to Jane Long’s link to the Fox News report because I detect something that ties to the CARDS that is very concerning and is very characteristic of what Obama would do:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/21/obama-signs-executive-action-delaying-deportations-for-millions-illegal

In the above Fox News link it is written that:

“During a 15-minute primetime speech Thursday, Obama said his administration will start accepting applications from illegal immigrants who seek the deferred actions.”

and:

“Those who qualify will be granted protections for three years, Obama said, as he laid out his sweeping plan to the public Thursday night from the East Room of the White House.”

Obama will start having information via application gathered on the illegals and this information can be used for the CARDS.

Further, Obama is granting only THREE years of reprieve to the illegals, why? I am guessing he is going to give his Community Organizers (now Community Service Officers) a short time to register the illegals to vote and that they better be voted for the democrat in 2016 else their legal status could be jeopardized in 2017.

The bottom line is that Abbott’s office needs to file SOON with or without the EOs to stop the CARDS via Temporary Federal Restraining Order or Preliminary Federal Injunction. These Federal Court Orders are not difficult to obtain as Abbott has standing in his position as Texas Attorney General or as Governor of Texas. And these orders can delay the CARDS for at least a year and possibly two.

Here’s the TEMPLATE link again for more information on how these Court Orders are assembled:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217959/posts


46 posted on 11/22/2014 7:27:28 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: maggief; LucyT; Republicanprofessor; Nachum; null and void; WildHighlander57

Crosslinking previous post to this thread.


47 posted on 11/22/2014 7:33:27 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
Nice catch---thanks for the heads-up.

Abbott needs to file SOON----with or without the E/Os----to stop the CARDS via Temporary Federal Restraining Order or Preliminary Federal Injunction. Federal Court Orders are not difficult to obtain as Abbott has standing as AG---and is Gov-elect.....the orders can delay the CARDS for a year, possibly two. Here’s the TEMPLATE link on how Court Orders are assembled: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217959/posts

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I saw the still on the news---the ding-a-ling is on AF-One---signing "something." No witnesses. If it's so frickin' great---why didn't he sign it at the rally---witnessed by illegals?

As Cong Michelle Bachmann says---he's doing a Gruber---thinks we're all stupid.

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A border sheriff told Fox News the 5 million is only a fraction of what's to come---wholesale falsification of documents to get their slimy hands on those cards.

They MUST be stopped.

Also on Fox---OKLA AG is commencing lawsuits.

48 posted on 11/22/2014 11:28:32 AM PST by Liz
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To: Hostage

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3230184/posts?page=30#30

its just a memo, not an EO.

0 and handlers doing an end run... how does congress nullify an EO if it doesn’t exist?

They gotta find another way; maybe the anti-’cards’ angle...


49 posted on 11/23/2014 12:42:14 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: WildHighlander57; Liz; Jane Long; All

Please ping this post to your lists.

From the Template link in the bottom of #46 above:

III. LEGAL STANDARD

A preliminary injunction is “an extraordinary remedy that should be granted only when the party seeking the relief, by a clear showing, carries the burden of persuasion.

A party carries this burden of persuasion by establishing:

(1) that there is a substantial likelihood of success on the merits;

(2) that the plaintiff would suffer irreparable injury absent an injunction;

(3) that an injunction would not substantially injure other interested parties; and

(4) that an injunction would further public interest.

Let’s take them one at a time and remember that the plaintiff need only establish facts of concerns that are to be sorted out later, i.e. a Motion of Preliminary Injunction need not argue the larger case but serve only to stop a process from proceeding that may otherwise have serious consequences until its legality and material impact are sorted out in Court (the larger case).

Note also that a Federal Preliminary Injunction is a Federal Court Order similar to a Temporary Restraining Order and is needed to GAIN TIME for the purpose of the party bringing it to be better organized and positioned for the larger case filing. It can gain as much as a year and possibly two. It can become permanent if not contested or until overridden by Congressional action.

Lastly note that a Federal Court Order applies to federal officers, federal officials and federal contractors where violation of the court order can lead to charges of contempt, incarceration and fines. Federal Judges have US Marshals at their disposal who are capable of indefinitely detaining violators of federal court orders.

With respect to (1) of the Legal Standard:

There is a reasonable substantial likelihood of success on the merits based on previous cases in which the Executive Branch overreached its authority and its constitutional bounds. (Attorneys for a Governor or State AG will fill this item out in the pleading with recent multiple examples of case law)

The idea is specific to facts that an unauthorized solicitation for CARDS above and beyond what the US Congress has authorized is a clear overreach of Executive Authority. (Must be careful here not to give the judge a reason to rule that Congress should therefore deal with it). Congress has recessed without addressing the matter and has not indicated any inclination to take measures to stop a ‘surge’ of manufacturing of the CARDS. Congress’ inaction and the uncertainty of Congressional action on this matter places the State of ___________ in peril as described in (2) of this legal standard.

With respect to (2) of the Legal Standard:

The State of ___________ will suffer irreparable injury absent an injunction in the estimated amount of $$$ as itemized in Exhibit X, noting the facts herein described how the the proposed CARDS and attendant Work Permits are access devices to SSNs, State IDs and State Drivers Licenses with particular attention drawn to the evidence as to eligibility for public benefits, to the general welfare, tax burdens and economic prospects of the Public, to a broader issue who is and who is not a US citizen or US permanent resident as relates to eligibility for state benefits and services, to be licensed or who and who is not a United States citizen registered to vote, all of which above hereto are in violation of the Immigration Reform Control Act of 1986 (recitals; sectional references etc.)

(Here the argument must emphasize that time is of the essence, that the State of ___________ cannot rely on action of Congress before irreparable harm is done, etc. )

Importantly, the State of ___________ requests the Court enjoin all other States, the District of Columbia, the Federal Government of the Unites States of America and all US and Non-US manufactures of said CARDS for the following reason. Issuance of any of these CARDS outside the State of ___________ can and will (cite evidence of DACA histories) lead to the issuance of State IDs and State Driver Licenses in those jurisdictions which under (cite federal and state laws) require the State of ___________ to recognize and reciprocate such documents with new documents to be issued by the State of ___________ upon proof of residency. In other words, the illegal person’s documents are laundered masking evidence of the illegal person’s origin and status.

Following on the previous paragraph, the other jurisdictions must be enjoined in the interest of National Security (here pleads irreparable harm ensues by the peril of free movement of persons associated with enemies of the United States).

With respect to (3) of the Legal Standard:

An injunction would not substantially injure other interested parties as those parties are defined as a class of foreign persons that are illegally in the United States by premeditated deliberate action (hereinafter referred to as illegal aliens, illegal persons or illegal class), that such illegal persons are not entitled to the welfare, benefits, opportunities and privileges afforded to legal residents of the State of ___________, that an injunction denying manufacture and issuance of the CARDS to such illegal persons will not further endanger or hazard their current condition as exists now in absence of the CARDS acknowledging the CARDS will be enabling of such illegal persons to improve their conditions but such enabling is prospective and irrelevant to the existing state of conditions characterizing this illegal class and to the fact that denying these CARDS will not impact their existing conditions. On the contrary the issuance of these CARDS will hazard the legal residents of the State of ___________ as described in detail in Exhibit Y (case recitals, etc.).

With respect to (4) of the Legal Standard:

The injunction requested would further public interest and in fact is vital to the continuation of good governing practices and to the effective execution of law enforcement function and to the broad stability of the public at large.

(Here is written a persuasive argument and summary for the consequences that are in evidence of the burdens to society and governance; for example the tens of thousands of illegal voter registrations found in North Carolina of recently similarly documented DACA persons, the entrainment of hundreds of thousands more of illegal persons crossing the border where the CARDS provide direct impetus to such newly arrived persons, etc.)

Remarks may also be made that neighboring countries have border and immigration controls that serve to check disruptive waves of a free-for-all rush to a failed border, etc.

_______________________

THE ABOVE will need to be written by a team of experienced attorneys at the disposal of a State Governor or a State AG with careful annotation and recitals. It is not necessary AT THIS STAGE to write a full case pleading. It is only necessary to adequately cover the Legal Standard above to allow the judge to draw a benefit of the doubt in favor of the State.

Further tactics may be considered. The Motion for Preliminary Injunction may be filed in federal court in the DC Circuit. This will apply the federal injunctive order to all the States, the District of Columbia and to Contractors based outside the US, thereby preventing manufacture and issuance of these CARDS from any source and from any geographic area.

IN SUM, this motion asks for a federal judge to put a hold on the CARDS until all of its ramifications can be ascertained and measured.

Freepers should seek to find an attorney who is experienced in government matters and ask them to write a more polished draft motion according to this Legal Standard and possibly incorporating points similar to the above suggestions. It should be written as soon as possible (2 weeks max) and then presented to the State Governor’s Office or their State Attorney General’s Office.

Here again is the link to a template that was adopted from a successful federal injunction against the Obama Administration:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217959/posts


50 posted on 11/23/2014 7:31:24 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage; Liz; null and void; maggief; LucyT; KC_Lion; Republicanprofessor; Nachum

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3229699/posts?page=50#50

All y’all ping to this post by Hostage!

Pass it on to those who can get it to some legal beagles, and head 0 off at the pass....


51 posted on 11/23/2014 8:30:13 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: Hostage
A group of Congressional Republicans needs to meet with the CEO and President of General Dynamics and let them know that if they do this, the next time we have a Republican President, GD will not get a damn cent from the Federal Government for four years. No new contracts and existing contracts cancelled for the good of the government.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

52 posted on 11/23/2014 8:42:22 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm

Actually, I have a little different idea but I understand your sentiment.

This business of the CARDS represents very little business to GD in terms of their defense and intelligence businesses which are enormous.

I would call the GD CEO and tell him to do a real slow walk on the cards until a Federal Court or Congress shut it down entirely and I would reassure him that nothing will happen to any of his other larger businesses and that when Ted Cruz is in the Oval Office in January 2017 that we will push hard to reward GD with new and more lucrative defense and intelligence contracts.


53 posted on 11/23/2014 8:48:42 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: WildHighlander57; Liz; Jane Long; All

I got one more idea that makes me smile ear to ear and I can just imagine it will make O’s eyes pop out of their sockets and his head explode and I believe it would make any State Governor or State AG get enthusiastically behind it. Even a feeble died-in-the-wool GOP-E RINO would get behind this idea!

Let me set the table. First, let’s look at one of the many excellent links that Jane Long has posted, this one to a Fox News report:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/21/obama-signs-executive-action-delaying-deportations-for-millions-illegal

Now focus on this sentence taken from the above link:

“During a 15-minute primetime speech Thursday, Obama said his administration will start accepting applications from illegal immigrants who seek the deferred actions.”

Now think about it for one moment in the context of a State AG’s Office preparing to file a Motion for Preliminary Injunction against Obama’s Executive ‘Action’.

Think...think...think...

We see here that Obama is going to direct his people, his Community Organizers now known as Community Service Officers to “start accepting applications from illegal immigrants”.

And of course we know the information from these APPLICATIONS will be used to make and issue the CARDS.

And imagine for a second the State Attorney in the courtroom, pleading before the federal judge ......

And the State Attorney is asking the judge to put a hold, a federal order, a federal injunction, a temporary restraining order on the CARDS ......

And Obama’s lawyer says to the judge there is no law, nothing to bar printing and accepting APPLICATIONS; imagine for a moment “Your Honor, we have already started the process of accepting APPLICATIONS and there is no harm, there can be no real harm to the State of _________ in this process we are already pursuing” etc.

And then imagine the judge turning to the State Attorney and signaling for a reply whence the State Attorney says:

“Your Honor, the State of ________ has no objection whatsoever, in fact the State of ________ and I am sure all the States that have joined with us here today would have no objection in encouraging and supporting the acceptance of these amnesty, er, deferred action APPLICATIONS”. We are in complete agreement with the President and his Administration that illegal immigrants should be encouraged, even PAID! to come forward to fill out these APPLICATIONS with assistance from interpreters and other handlers who will proceed to take all their information including any documents from their homelands such as copies of their matricular cards, passports, family members, places of residence in the USA as well as in their homelands, including full biometrics, fingerprints, DNA etc. etc. etc.

And might we suggest? Might we suggest that we pay each applicant $50 in return for implanting an electronic tracking device under their skin? Ok $75 .... all right then ....$100!

BY ALL MEANS MR. PRESIDENT!

BY ALL MEANS SIR! PLEASE PRESS FORWARD FULL SPEED AHEAD WITH YOUR ......

A P P L I C A T I O N S!

Collect the information Mr. President. We are fully behind you Sir!

Meanwhile Sir, Your Majesty, we are putting a hold on your CARDS! We need to have this discussion about CARDS until Raphael Edward “Ted” Cruz has his new office fumigated in January 2017!

In all seriousness, the Motion for Preliminary Injunction or its presentation in court should in some way encourage the information gathering on the tens of millions of applicants and suggest that it be done in a way that will be calming and rewarding to the applicants. After all, Obama is not going to deport them any time soon. So they can rest easy and come on in and fill out the application and get all the scanning, fingerprinting and measurements done. And maybe get a little money to boot!


54 posted on 11/23/2014 9:46:25 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage; WildHighlander57; Tennessee Nana; sickoflibs; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; Grampa Dave; ...
..... "THE PRESIDENT SAID" illegal immigrants (hiding in the shadows) are encouraged to come forward to fill out APPLICATIONS for temporary residency---the Obama govt will record all their information including documents from their homelands such as copies of their matricular cards, passports, names of family members, number of children, places of residence in the USA, as well as in their homelands, including full biometrics, fingerprints, DNA etc. etc. etc.....

Oh yeah---they should do that...especially criminals.

"THE PRESIDENT SAID" they should give his federal operatives all the relevant info so they can "stay." (sniffle)

And BTW, all info will be date-mined w/ existing federal and state info.....lordy, heaven knows what we'll find:

Multiple identities, voting registrations, multiple SS nos, multiple drivers' licenses, multiple EBT cards, EITC applications, wire-transfers to offshore banks......

.......etc, etc, etc, and so on and forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseaum.

55 posted on 11/24/2014 3:11:12 AM PST by Liz
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