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The One Battle Michael Brown’s Family Will Win
TIME ^ | 11/27/2014 | Josh Sanburn

Posted on 11/27/2014 6:58:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Body-worn cameras are poised to become standard for police around the U.S. after the tragedy in Ferguson

In the fevered moments after the grand jury’s decision not to charge Ferguson, Mo., police officer Darren Wilson in the fatal shooting of Michael Brown, the family of the slain 18-year-old released a statement pleading for peace — and urging people to join their campaign to get police around the nation to wear cameras.

“We need to work together to fix the system that allowed this to happen,” the statement read. “Join with us in our campaign to ensure that every police officer working the streets in this country wears a body camera.”

The crusade is understandable. No video recordings of the Aug. 9 confrontation between Wilson and Brown exist, and eyewitness accounts of the incident were often in conflict. Some said Brown had his hands up when he was shot. Others said Brown was charging toward Wilson when he officer fired. To many, a camera on Wilson’s uniform would have ended the uncertainty and potentially avoided the subsequent tumult that engulfed the St. Louis suburb.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: bodycameras; ferguson; police
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To: Spktyr
I am not stating a hope or projecting wishful thinking. It is demonstrable fact that cameras *have* cut down on municipal settlements and rioting over police conduct in most jurisdictions that they have been introduced in. It’s so demonstrable that municipal insurance companies are offering discounts for governments that install them.

The trial lawyers lobby will be paying off big city politicians to make sure cameras are not adopted.

41 posted on 11/27/2014 8:30:42 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
He also added that had it been available when he confronted Michael Brown, it would be additional evidence in his favor.

That's very similar to what GZ said a minute or two after the cops arrived.A cop lied to him (SCOTUS has ruled that cops are allowed to lie to suspects in certain situations),saying that the entire incident had been caught on video.When told this GZ expressed relief and approval that that had occurred.

Both GZ's reaction and Wilson's comment scream *not guilty* to me.

42 posted on 11/27/2014 8:34:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: SeekAndFind

IMHO, there is a deeper problem.

Our judicial system was formed from a Judeo-Christian heritage. It holds that the law is formed to control the unrighteous, not the righteous man. Our perspectives on liberty are based upon this premise. Our rules of evidence are also formed to ensure the righteous man is not impeded, while the unrighteous or criminal guilty of violating the law, may be properly identified in that judgment.

This is different than the perspective of the moral relativist. Given the rules of evidence, assumed not guilty until proven guilty, and entitled to liberty until proven guilty, those who are not Judeo-Christian will be tempted to reinterpret ‘rights’, freedom, liberty, and justice from their perspective.

While the common Judeo-Christian/western perspective of a camera providing evidence to exonerate those respecting the law and legitimate authority, those who oppose, reject, and attack Judeo-Christian beliefs will be tempted to use such information to undermine the established legal system.

Instead of exonerating the lawful, it will be used to form post-event consensus of guilt independent of existing laws.

Just like Ferguson, where the masses ignore legitimate authority, and focus upon a person’s loss of liberty and life, regardless his actions, the cameras will merely be used to fuel the same perspective to attack legitimate authority.

In the case of MB, now that he is dead, he won’t be charged with violating the law, nor will he be declared a criminal by the judicial system. Since he will be considered innocent until proven guilty, and he will never be charged, moral relativists will instead focus on vengeance for his death.


43 posted on 11/27/2014 8:34:33 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If ever there were a “non-partisan” issue, this is it.

I don’t think anyone objects on the face of it.


44 posted on 11/27/2014 8:37:01 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: PapaBear3625

That appears to be what’s been going on up north. Southern police department have almost universally been installing/issuing cameras for years and years now, but for *some* reason (-rolleyes-) northern departments have not.

I believe some few might be rethinking that now. Or will be when the increased insurance bills start rolling in.


45 posted on 11/27/2014 8:52:26 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: eddie willers

Some police unions, chiefs, and cities seem to. Strangely, the list of where this happens read like a list of “the top most corrupt departments/cities/etc in the US.” Or perhaps not so strangely.


46 posted on 11/27/2014 8:53:50 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: JPG

Committing strong arm robberies and attempting to take a law officers gun at age 18 means that the odds of reaching 19 are not good.
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The sad fact is that had Wilson not killed MB in self defense..another policeman at another time probably would have for some transgression. The obituary was written long ago..by his “parents”.


47 posted on 11/27/2014 9:06:23 AM PST by AFret.
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To: SeekAndFind
As usual, most of these cameras will be Made in China.
48 posted on 11/27/2014 9:36:50 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Thing is, it wouldn't matter if footage appeared that showed Michael Brown attacking Darren Wilson, punching him in the head, grabbing his gun, charging at him... none of it would matter. They are angry because a black man lost a confrontation with a white man.

Had Michael Brown killed Darren Wilson, they'd be high-fiving each other and smoking a celebratory doobie. This is tribalism, pure and simple.

49 posted on 11/27/2014 9:55:11 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: SeekAndFind

What we really need is for all elected officials from POTUS on down to wear body-cams 24/7 wired to the Interwebs so we can be sure that they are not betraying us.


50 posted on 11/27/2014 10:05:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: SeekAndFind

A body camera isn’t a perfect solution, but it’s one that has my wholehearted support, as long as procedures are in-place to prevent unauthorized editing/tampering with video. In other words, I think there should be a chain of custody when the storage medium is removed from the camera or downloaded.

On the other side of the coin I would like to see would be a blanket declaration from a high court that photographing police publicly performing their duty is absolutely Constitutional in all instances. This should be a citizen’s absolute right.

My suspicions rise when I hear about municipalities with regulations against recording police action.


51 posted on 11/27/2014 10:34:50 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
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To: eddie willers

“If ever there were a “non-partisan” issue, this is it.

I don’t think anyone objects on the face of it.”

right now they do, but when the democrats discover that incidences of police misconduct are rare, and youtube becomes full of videos of black perps, they will start to fight it tooth and nail.


52 posted on 11/27/2014 10:37:32 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
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To: dsrtsage

+1.


53 posted on 11/27/2014 10:39:40 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: dsrtsage
right now they do, but when the democrats discover that incidences of police misconduct are rare, and youtube becomes full of videos of black perps, they will start to fight it tooth and nail.

I suspect you're right.

Let's do it before they catch on.

54 posted on 11/27/2014 10:49:44 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: SeekAndFind
Of course he said "YES." The irony with any kind of camera is that they see things that the professional malcontents don't want to be seen.

Just look at the camera shots from inside the convenience store in this particular case.

Put cameras all over the place, and a lot of the things you never wanted to know about the quasi-humanoid mutant subculture in places like Ferguson, MO will be out there for everyone to see.

55 posted on 11/27/2014 10:53:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: SeekAndFind

How about all Government Workers wearing them as well.

That way the people that pay their Salaries, that would be us Taxpayers, can see what we’re getting for our “investment”.


56 posted on 11/27/2014 11:02:56 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you thought the Mulatto Marxist was bad, wait until the Menopausal Marxist is Elected.)
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