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Push for Constitutional Convention Gathers Steam
Chicago Tribune ^ | November 30, 2014 23:20 GMT | Albert R Hunt (Bloomberg)

Posted on 11/30/2014 3:28:43 PM PST by Up Yours Marxists

Rising frustration with Washington and conservative electoral victories across much of the U.S. are feeding a movement in favor of something America hasn't done in 227 years: Hold a convention to rewrite the Constitution.

Although it's still not likely to be successful, the effort is more serious than before: Already, more than two dozen states have called for a convention. There are two ways to change or amend the founding document. The usual method is for an adjustment to win approval from two-thirds of the Congress and then be ratified by three-quarters of the states. There have been 27 amendments adopted this way.

The second procedure is separate from Congress. It requires two-thirds of the states, or 34, to call for a convention. The framers thought this was necessary because Congress wouldn't be likely to advance any amendments that curtailed its powers. But this recourse never has been used.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; convention; statesrights
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To: Up Yours Marxists
The purpose of the Convention is NOT to "to rewrite the Constitution."

The author of this article and others who do not truly understand how a Constitutional Convention works should read Mark Levin's wonderful book, The Liberty Amendments.

After reading the book, you'll agree with the first paragraph above.

41 posted on 11/30/2014 4:15:26 PM PST by upchuck (I'm voting Ted Cruz for POTUS in 2016. How 'bout you?)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Moonbat GOP? You don’t understand this process. An Article 5 convention rips the power from Washington. If you think that what we have been doing for the last 70 years secures freedom and prosperity... you are deluding yourself.


42 posted on 11/30/2014 4:16:01 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
How would the federal entity "twist the arms in the states"? Send the Army into the various state capitols? Cut off their federal highway money? How do you see them accomplishing this?
43 posted on 11/30/2014 4:16:25 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

You underestimate the courage and fortitude of the fine men and women in the States. For your information, Conservatives just swept the elections IN THE STATES and I can guarandamtee you they ain’t gonna be taking any lip from Obama goons anytime soon. In fact it’s going the opposite direction as we speak.


44 posted on 11/30/2014 4:16:44 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: eldoradude

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

Run along now junior! You’re out of your league here!


45 posted on 11/30/2014 4:18:15 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: eldoradude

Why is giving the states a shot at the Amendatory Process “the worst idea possible”? Please explain.


46 posted on 11/30/2014 4:18:30 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Hostage; MinuteGal

“Explain in detail how the left would have a ‘field day’ with this.

Tick ...Tick ...Tick ...Tick ...Tick ...”

Only a fool would want to overturn our original constitution. The only problem our Constitution has are the liberals that attempt to reinterpret it and destroy it.


47 posted on 11/30/2014 4:18:51 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: PIF

Continuing along the establishment path is likewise exceedingly bad. The difference? We’ve never tried an Article 5 convention yet.


48 posted on 11/30/2014 4:19:00 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: flaglady47

Please read Posts #3 & #12.


49 posted on 11/30/2014 4:20:35 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Bump to anyone who believes a Constitutional Convention is held to “rewrite the Constitution.”


50 posted on 11/30/2014 4:21:59 PM PST by upchuck (I'm voting Ted Cruz for POTUS in 2016. How 'bout you?)
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To: eldoradude

To deny the people via their states their natural right to amend the government is an affront to our founding.


51 posted on 11/30/2014 4:22:25 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: flaglady47

> “Only a fool would want to overturn our original constitution. The only problem our Constitution has are the liberals that attempt to reinterpret it and destroy it.”

Article V does not attempt to overturn the US Constitution. It allows that assemblies in the States be empowered to PROPOSE AMENDMENTS outside of Congress. People do not trust Congress today and the Constitution is being twisted and abused by the Courts.

Therefore, our neighbors and friends in our States are what we entrust to repair and make clear in our US Constitution the will of WE THE PEOPLE.

For starters, a Federal Marriage Amendment.


52 posted on 11/30/2014 4:23:06 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Up Yours Marxists
There are too many chances of outright deceitful wording and unintend consequences. In a political climate where "we have to pass it to see what is in it..." No rewrite of the constitution would come out well.

The contemporary values of all factions of our society would distort the majesty of the document. Can you imagine an official language (not English)? Guaranteed right to abortion? Universal voting regardless of age or citizenship? Pot and street drug decrimilization? Green party or Ron Paulites agendas folded into the constitution? .

Amending the constitution is another story. Sure, if a common cause garnering the support to pass an amendment arises, it deserves passing. If it later is determined to be a mistake, it can be amended back out just like prohibition.

The bottom line is that the original document works just fine. Some of our politicians just need to read it.

53 posted on 11/30/2014 4:23:35 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Publius
How would the federal entity "twist the arms in the states"?

Simple: $. $ in oh so many ways. Direct federal support - as you say highway funds - but also other federal spending. Military bases and any & all other federal facilities located in a State that didn't back amendment proposals favored by the administration and the other big governments types in DC - yes, even a GOP controlled Congress. Far too many GOPe types in there that don't want to see the fed shrunk. It would be "suggested" that States that don't support these amendments might find the location and existence of their federal facilities (and thus the $ and jobs associated with them) "re-evaluated" and possibly re-located to more compliant States. This is a *lawless* administration and so-far compliant and complacent Congress. Don't imagine they wouldn't throw a couple of bones into the amendment pool...

54 posted on 11/30/2014 4:23:45 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

A convention of the states to amend the constitution seems like a reasonable approach to the out-of-control Federal Government.

How else are we going to stop the Democrat and Republican politicians from taking more and more power from we the people?


55 posted on 11/30/2014 4:23:46 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Up Yours Marxists
Hold a convention to rewrite the Constitution.

A major newspaper completely misrepresents the convention of the states to propose amendments to the Constitution, which is completely different from a wide-open constitutional convention.

56 posted on 11/30/2014 4:24:11 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: flaglady47
"Only a fool would want to overturn our original constitution."

An Article V convention doesn't "overturn" anything. It's the states proposing amendments that would then need to be ratified by all the other states. And, btw, the entire process is in Article V of the Constitution. At this point, it's the last peaceful hope before civil war.

57 posted on 11/30/2014 4:25:01 PM PST by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Will John Boehner or Mitch McConnell permit a vote by the new congress to recognize that the Article V threshold has been met? Almost certainly not.

All that is needed is a simple majority of both houses, and the Article V convention is a fact.


58 posted on 11/30/2014 4:26:57 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: upchuck
The term "Constitutional Convention" is technically correct because a convention to propose amendments to any constitution is a constitutional convention. But the term causes fear, and those who use the term intend it for that purpose, as Al Hunt did.

When I took up this cause in 1998 by editing the brief of Walker v. US, I began using the Term "Article V Convention", which lacked the fear factor. Then one day someone said to me, "Dude, like what's an Article V?"

Judge Andrew Napolitano uses the term "Amendments Convention", and I've taken that up because it's the best descriptor of what this kind of convention can do.

59 posted on 11/30/2014 4:27:09 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Hostage

“Explain in detail how the left would have a ‘field day’ with this.”

Are you dumbed down too?


60 posted on 11/30/2014 4:27:30 PM PST by Revel
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