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Tracking Miles As Gas Tax Alternative Raises Fairness, Privacy Concerns Los Angeles
LATimes ^ | December 06, 2013 | DAN WEIKEL

Posted on 12/06/2014 5:31:30 PM PST by Steelfish

Tracking Miles As Gas Tax Alternative Raises Fairness, Privacy Concerns Los Angeles California officials are testing the idea of a mileage fee to replace the state tax of 36 cents per gallon of gas. By DAN WEIKEL Among those who would be hardest hit by a mileage fee are owners of hybrids and electric cars Standing at a Chevron station in Long Beach, Teresa Gutierrez wished she was pumping fuel into a gas-sipping hybrid instead of her hulking GMC Yukon.

She was nevertheless cool to the idea that the state might start raising money for highway repairs by replacing the traditional gasoline tax with a fee based on how far people drive. Penalizing owners of hybrids and electric cars doesn't feel right, Gutierrez said. "It defeats their green purpose."

Jesus Velez also objected as he filled the 28-gallon tank of his Lincoln Navigator. Then he realized that owners of higher-mileage cars buy far less fuel, and therefore pay far less in gas taxes. A per-mile fee "would make it fairer for everyone," he concluded.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: energy; gasoline; tax
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To: Steelfish

Idiot...


21 posted on 12/06/2014 6:05:00 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: grania

a hybrid vehicle would tend to be heavier because of battery weight, but get better mileage.


22 posted on 12/06/2014 6:05:49 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Jonty30

Sorry, these tax people need to be dropped off in the desert.


23 posted on 12/06/2014 6:06:46 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Impact to the environment greater due to the batteries.

Also, the hybrids cost more so they should pay a luxury tax.


24 posted on 12/06/2014 6:07:56 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grania

Mileage times weight would be the fairest method.

You could even calibrate to where it reflected actual wear to roads.


25 posted on 12/06/2014 6:08:28 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: DoughtyOne

How about service repair people who drive hundreds of miles a day? Guess who is going to pay that extra fee?


26 posted on 12/06/2014 6:08:44 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: Steelfish

would make it fairer for everyone,”.

When is everyone going to realize that there is no such a thing as fair. Suck it up and get on with your life.


27 posted on 12/06/2014 6:09:02 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: driftdiver

I agree with you completely. :)


28 posted on 12/06/2014 6:09:20 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Steelfish

Before long, Kaliforniastan is going to tax how many times you pee and take a crap. They will tax anything to screw you out of a dollar. I refuse to even enter that state. Period! I am in the south, and I ain’t leaving. I live in the most conservative state in the Union, Alabama. We have a state government that the top 13 positions are republicans. The state senate and house are dominated by republicans. 8 of 9 Congress critters are republican I think it is. Both US Senators are republicans, with Jeff Sessions leading the way and the RINO in the other position. It is danged great to live here and you could not pay me millions to live in Kaliforniastan, or any other socialist homo state.


29 posted on 12/06/2014 6:09:59 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Steelfish

Faraday Cages rule.....


30 posted on 12/06/2014 6:10:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: grania
Lighter fuel efficient vehicles do less damage to the roads than oversized gas guzzlers do.

In theory that might be true, but the point isn't relevant. The difference in the wear and tear caused by a large SUV compared to a subcompact car is inconsequential compared to the wear and tear caused by a fully loaded (80,000-lb.) tractor-trailer combination truck.

31 posted on 12/06/2014 6:11:19 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: grania

“A mileage tax isn’t fair. Lighter fuel efficient vehicles do less damage to the roads than oversized gas guzzlers do.”

Who said the tax would apply equally for all types of vehicles? For that matter, who said that the tax cannot be adapted to also include when you drive and where you drive? And, after that, why not adjust the tax to income levels, so that the rich pay their fair share?


32 posted on 12/06/2014 6:15:10 PM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: Repeal The 17th

“I’m not sure how this would work...”

The only way it can work is that they track you, every inch you drive. If you don’t have a transmitter (or transponder), you get a ticket.


33 posted on 12/06/2014 6:16:05 PM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: Sherman Logan

Actually the more gas consumed per mile would be the fairest method. Oh gee. That’s what we have now.


34 posted on 12/06/2014 6:16:41 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ( Better a conservative teabagger than a liberal teabagee)
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To: EagleUSA

“And the IDIOTS in Taxifornia just keep voting these criminals back into office. How is Governor Jaunito Marquez BROWN these days??”

Unfortunately the Republicans want this as much as the Democrats. Makes them feel like “market forces” are being applied (coming from their Libertarian side).


35 posted on 12/06/2014 6:17:59 PM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: Steelfish

By the way, California charges State Sales Tax on their fuel (most states do not)...hmmm, nice revenue source for roads.

Just making the point that there are other options besides tracking everyone’s movements.


36 posted on 12/06/2014 6:21:23 PM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: Steelfish

They’ll be damned mucky if the new tax replaces the old one. All previous mention of the new taxing idea has presented it as an additional tax not replacing anything.


37 posted on 12/06/2014 6:23:35 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..) c)
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To: Iron Munro

It’s impossible to believe that tracking won’t be used against people once the information is being gathered.


38 posted on 12/06/2014 6:27:15 PM PST by glorgau
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To: VeniVidiVici

Doesn’t allow for electric cars. The main purpose of gas taxes is to pay for road construction and maintenance.

So the “fairest method” is miles x weight. Woudl be a sliding scale, of course, as the relationship between weight and road wear probably isn’t linear.


39 posted on 12/06/2014 6:35:40 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Steelfish

It will never be a replacement tax, it will be in addition to the gasoline tax. It’s how government operates.


40 posted on 12/06/2014 6:35:58 PM PST by Graybeard58 (V.33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. Corinthians 10:)
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