Sadly she is right. Our corrupt, partisan media has convinced the mass of low-info sheeple that if the government were to shut down, grocery store shelves would be empty and planes would start falling out of the sky within half an hour.
“The Republicans want what Obama wants on immigration and they are using the government shutdown as an excuse to not stop [him].”
Show me otherwise.
Mona is plain full of $h1+ on this one.
She totally side stepped (IMO) the issue of, “The Republicans want what Obama wants on immigration and they are using the government shutdown as an excuse to not stop [him].” Where’s the defense of that? Sorry, Rush is right on that point big time. Just look at what Boehner is doing right now in the House.
And if my aunt had testicles, she'd be my uncle.
The problem that the GOP-E doesn't want to hear is that people won't vote for their liberal republican for president.
Romney was unelectable.
/johnny
The None “shut down the government.” That’s one of the few things that I don’t have a problem with when it comes to Barry’s governance.
However, since “shutting down the government” seems to scare the Low/No Information Voters, it would be worthwhile for Republicans to have a leader who can speak coherently and forcefully enough to get the message across that if the None refuses to sign an appropriations bill, it is the None who is “shutting down the government.”
And, obviously, “a leader who can speak coherently and forcefully enough to get the message across” does not appear to include either John Boehner or Mitch McConnell.
Where is her proof the shutdowns hurt Repubs? Polls that include Dems? They should only care what their voters think and they want them to take a stand and so do the Indies.
Pray America is waking
Mona Charen is wrong about the government shutdown. And many other things.
BS. Loudly and publicly pass compartmentalized funding bills. “Now, we are funding welfare...” etc. Let the Dems own the fallout from saying no to each one week after week.
There is little doubt that the shutdown damaged the party’s standing. ??
I guess the recent election really showed those Republicans what happens if they Shut Down the Government.
Just more dribble from the Ruling Class aimed at Electing Hillary in 2 years.
I reject the underlying premise of the article, which is that Republicans should do what is good for the Republican Party, not what is good for the country.
83% of the government remained open during the so-called shutdown.
The government shutdown last year was beneficial due to being the first of a one-two punch that worked in the GOP’s favor.
The second punch was the collapse on rollout of Healthcare.gov. Once that happened, the GOP looked validated for their reasons for the shutdown.
The government should never be shut down over anger or spite or any other emotional reason. It needs to be shut down as part of a larger plan that leveraged the shut down in some well thought-out way to achieve defined and realistic political goals.
Why do Republicans distrust each other? We see the back slapping between R and D elected officials and the results of their coming together. Always more to the left than to the right.Then we see the jovial Dems sticking a knife in the back of the Rep to win the argument. We see Rep that are not articulate and confident at explaining the conservative position which makes us wonder if they really understand and believe it themselves. We see articulate Rep like Cruz or even Palin castigated and made fun of even though they are right more than wrong, not by media only, by Republican operatives and other politicians. I probably could go on. So it seems that the Rep are more interested in moving the debate to the left while trying to appear they are pulling to the right exactly because they are fearful and unwilling to use all thier tactics, stand strong, and represent the truth to the public around the media. By the way, the media isn’t a conglomerate of brains, it wouldn’t be too hard to talk around them if you have someone with brains and conviction.
Polls do NOT show anywhere near the blame for Rep the author states.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/government-shutdown-blame-poll_n_4045780.html
Huffpo is hardly a Conservative site and can be seen the spread is barley 10 points by those blaming Rep. And just a few months later the Dems got annihilated in the midterms.
Whenever Republicans occasionally do the right thing, they get bad press for it because it infuriates the left.
That does not mean it was the wrong thing to do.
We cannot afford to compromise with things over which there is no compromise. Obamacare is one of them. Immigration “reform” is another.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al, only accept “compromise” when they get EVERYTHING they want.
What good will it be to compromise on immigration when the President will selectively enforce only the provisions he wants?
Defund him. Quit worrying about future political repercussions of doing the right thing. You were elected to do the right thing NOW, not to shore up more power until some mythical day when you can finally do the right thing.
This "conservatives stayed home" narrative was trotted out literally within hours of the 2012 election being called for Obama, making me suspicious that it was pre-fabricated with the intent of further ostracizing evangelicals and conservatives from the Republican party. The overwhelming majority of conservative evangelicals who showed up in 2012 voted for Romney, but that's not the narrative we're hearing, even from Rush. Instead, the press has taken the one group that consistently, overwhelmingly votes for the more conservative candidate year after year, and tells the nation that this same group sat out the election and should be blamed for Obama's reelection. Does anybody else smell a set-up here?
According to the above article, Romney still couldn't win unless an unlikely 90% of this theoretical "missing white voter" base had voted for him.
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Well, she is right in the short run, but not the long run. After all, the people voted Obama’s cronies out this time around and even at the time, the polling is ALWAYS questionable. These pollsters know exactly who and where to poll to get the results THEY want, the results OBAMA wants, etc. How many of YOU freepers have been polled? I’ve never ONCE been polled. I’m pretty certain that they track answers from the same groups mostly. Our voices don’t count, nor do they really WANT to hear from us. It’s my personal opinion that ‘these polls’, having to do with policy and related matters are rigged to give Obama the seeming support. It’s just like the CIA report that Obama is asking for. WHY? He needed another crisis that appears to be from GWB’s term so he can exult in what a great guy he is in comparison to Bush. The CIA was not doing this for nothing...it was requested from Obama.
Mona, dear, you are as much of the problem as anybody else. You live for the polls. I could not give a rip about them. The important thing is for Congress to do their jobs right, not that they get good coverage or ratings. Let the voters sort out the polls and their meaning. You can see that the poll regarding the so-called shutdown did NOT hurt the republicans. The public is a fickle bunch, anyway. One week, give them a new tax and you are the scum of the earth. Next week, give them a free ice cream and you are the best person on the face of the earth. That just about sums it up. When people don’t think, they can agree with you, take everything at face value. but to those of us who do think, we can wait out the polls and the media sound bites. We will NEVER get good media coverage, so just do the right thing anyway! It’s sort of like this: when no one is looking do you steal a cookie from the cookie jar when Momma has said not to? Whether you get good media coverage or not, you do the right thing. PERIOD! Stop giving the republicans an “out”.