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Ted Cruz's moves on spending bill roil Republicans
news.yahoo.com ^ | 12/14/14 | Donna Cassata

Posted on 12/14/2014 6:10:42 AM PST by cotton1706

WASHINGTON (AP) — One colleague called the tactics of tea party-backed Sen. Ted Cruz on the $1.1 trillion spending bill a painful echo of last year's 16-day partial government shutdown.

Another senator said it was a strategy without an end game.

And that sniping came from Cruz's fellow Republicans.

The 43-year-old Texas freshman in a hurry — he's considering a 2016 presidential run — infuriated several GOP colleagues with a last-minute attempt to force a vote on President Barack Obama's executive actions on immigration.

The move upended lawmakers' weekend plans and, more troubling for his party, gave Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., an opening to move forward on long-stalled Obama nominees.

When Cruz got his vote Saturday, he lost badly, 74-22, as even Republicans who agree with him on immigration repudiated his effort. Moments later, Congress cleared the spending bill.

"You should have an end goal in sight if you're going to do these types of things and I don't see an end goal other than irritating a lot of people," said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; aliens; cromnibus; doddfrank; election2016; elections; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; hatersgonnahate; lieawatha; massachusetts; tedcruz; texas; uniparty
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To: who knows what evil?
My formulation is different. We have 2 movements in US politics, progressivism and conservatism. Conservatism is simply adherence to the Constitution and the rule of law. It is freedom, and respect for individual rights, local and state governance instead of centralized leviathan government.

Progressivism is centralized government, an evolving view of the Constitution that means it really means nothing, a welfare state verging into socialism and then full fledged marxism, and, in order to enforce its dictates, an erosion of freedom that leads eventually to an obedient semi-slavery for the citizens.

The GOPe are progressives. Democrats are now fully progressive. In the past, they had progressive and non-progressive elements, and survived through a coalition of interests. Thus, southern Democrats, non-progressive, worked with Northeastern and northern midwestern progressives to overcome the voting power of Republicans, and maintain power in their regions. The deal required progressives in the north to look the other way as southerners maintained their unlawful hold on the citizenry though violation of constitutional rights. That coalition fell apart in the 60s, although some southerners who were not progressive stayed in the party. What we have now is a situation where there are no remaining members of the Democrat party who are not progressive. Those who weren't, are now (recall, for example, the former KKK leader, Robert Byrd and his progressive voting record after figuring out he had to get with the progressive agenda. Manchin is following his example.

So, it is just progressives (GOPe in control of the GOP, and all Democrats) against conservatives, who do not control a party. If conservatives cannot take over the GOP, which I think is probably the case, then there is only one solution to that situation.

61 posted on 12/14/2014 9:59:52 AM PST by Defiant (How does a President reverse the actions of a dictator?)
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To: BruceS

There are enough Cruz haters all over the place. We do not need anti-Ted sentiments here at FR. GO TED GO!!!!


62 posted on 12/14/2014 10:16:04 AM PST by Menthops (If you are reading this..... the GOPe hates you!)
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To: Paladin2
I,m surprised that Thune supported Cruz.

Show vote only, he does not support Cruz.

We have to start recognizing that many of these supporting votes do not matter because what they are voting against or for doesn't matter, the outcome is already determined.

Ghomert and Bachman both swore that the House bill was written and approved months before the actual vote took place, negotiation with conservatives, was never a part of the process.

63 posted on 12/14/2014 12:58:28 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Principled
If we get the WH again, prez should just declare that 0bama’s nominees are declared void.

We have only one half of one third of the government, you can't expect us to do anything. Now if you just give us the Senate then we will really get busy helping you, but if you really expect anything to be done you must give us the presidency.

I am still waiting for Bush to undo all the EOs that Clinton did. Never gonna happen they all play the same game, we are the losers they are the winners. I am ready for a Gasoline tax increase now that they have Gasoline back under $4.00, we won't even notice it.

64 posted on 12/14/2014 1:06:29 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Did that get pulled from the final bill?

Nothing will be pulled or added that would require it to go back to the House for approval, you know that for sure.

65 posted on 12/14/2014 1:10:51 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: BruceS
Thanks!

This country desperately needs a hero and savior!

66 posted on 12/14/2014 1:49:02 PM PST by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: cotton1706; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; RitaOK; MountainDad; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!
67 posted on 12/14/2014 1:49:07 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: John S Mosby
Why bother with a platform.

In deed when Bob Dole was asked about the anti abortion plank in the GOP platform, he replied, no one ever reads that thing.

68 posted on 12/14/2014 2:35:46 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: cotton1706

Email the GOP and ask to be removed from their solicitation and organizing list because the GOP no longer represents your interests. We need to swamp them with requests for removal.

we need a GOP - DO NOT CALL LIST. Put me on it.


69 posted on 12/14/2014 2:45:59 PM PST by Eva
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To: HarleyLady27

Hatch may be the senior Republican senator now: he took office on January 3, 1977; two years before Thad Cochran.


70 posted on 12/15/2014 8:31:20 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: BruceS
Now Harry Reid will use the Monday morning session to give lifetime appointments to a bunch of Obama judges and confirm some other controversial appointees. He might have been able to do that on Monday afternoon, but probably not as many since all the Demoncrat senators would want to go home.

If you think that Reid was going to let even one pending nomination not get forced through before the 'rats lose control, you're crazy.

71 posted on 12/15/2014 8:33:50 AM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: itsahoot

I remember that; Mr. Dole looked particularly miffed when asked about “his” platform. It was a clue he was a disaster in waiting.


72 posted on 12/17/2014 9:53:17 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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