[Travis McGee]

[no-to-illegals]

Welcome to the party George.

[sauropod]

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[Vermont Lt]

Russia and The U.S. share a tv get me t style. We live in an oligarchy. It is more clear now after this weekends BS in DC. If you are a corporation or person with gobs of money you can double your donations. The rest of us just suck it up and pay.

It is time to water the tree of Liberty.

[I want the USA back]

Our government lies and the media support them.

[Don Corleone]

Winston Smith is earning his little blue check.

[Nuc 1.1]

Mr. Mano, they are not the mainstream media, they are the propaganda media. Words have meaning calling the media mainstream is to confer a legitimacy upon them they do not deserve. Same thing with illegal aliens. They are not immigrants. Also the government and the propaganda media has been lying to us for decades, decades, and decades. Glad you have finally noticed Mr. Mano.

[precisionshootist]

The author brings up a very important and often overlooked point.

"Lying is routine for evil governments. Once a regime starts down the path of dishonesty, it never turns back."

Many on the conservative side believe we will reverse the dishonesty of our government by winning elections. We won't. We have many laboratory examples of this right here in the US. Look at state, local and city governments. Take Chicago, a corrupt cesspool, why have the wheels of elections not reformed this corrupt city? Unfortunately I know of no example where dishonest government has been reversed through elections. Maybe there are some but I personally know of no example where this has taken place.

This IMO is the reason to forget about national elections and concentrate on an article V convention of the states. Article V convention was the founders answer to corrupt central government. It's time to use it while we still can.

[RKBA Democrat]

A good article but one glaring inaccuracy: “Unfortunately, Americans are not as savvy to government mendacity as the Soviet citizenry were.”

Actually, Americans probably are about as savvy. The way that’s expressed though is different. In the soviet union, everyone voted...or else. In the US, in spite of endless ads, extended hours, exhortations to civic duty, etc. only about 36% bothered to show in 2014 That was the lowest participation rate for a midterm since WWII.

[Soul of the South]

We live in a society where the elites are at best amoral and worst immoral. While some members of the elites may feign to believe in God, they are not religious and they do not hold themselves to any religious standards of behavior much less try to live virtuous lives.

The very definition of morality has become muddied and political. This week we were treated to the spectacle of politicians, academics, and social leaders condemning the heavy handed interrogation of terrorist prisoners as illegal and immoral. Those same leaders will not condemn the arbitrary killing of individuals, in nations not at war with us, by drone strikes. In fact the current president claims the legal authority to kill foreigners and US citizens around the world without any form of due process. Not a whimper of concern or protest by the same actors crying for George Bush and Dick Cheney to be tried and convicted of crimes against humanity.

Likewise we see in Ferguson the casting aside of the rule of law in favor of a lynch mob. Progressive leaders and thinkers are quick to throw away the principles of “equal justice under law” and “innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” for an arbitrary system of justice they can administer from afar and use to dole out political favors.

At the University of Virginia, unproven accusations of criminal conduct by unidentified assailants against an anonymous victim resulted in the immediate and arbitrary suspension (punishment) of all members of social fraternities. This occurred without any investigation of the facts or any opportunity for the accused to respond. The court of public opinion demanded action so the heavy hand of the state administered the justice of the lynch mob, punishing over a thousand students in an effort to bring justice to the seven they could not identify and which likely do not exist. Even today, with the accuser and the charges discredited, the fraternities remain suspended and the freedom of the thousand remains restricted. Here the political ends justified the means and justify the the continued restriction of liberty.

Our politics and institutions are corrupt because the soul of the nation is corrupt. We elect men and women who have no moral compass or standards to office and then complain about the results. The majority of our citizens do not practice a religion (i.e. read the scriptures and attend a house of worship). Our society no longer upholds Christian values and ethics as standards to which all should live by. Without shared values and a culturally ingrained view of morality, a society cannot survive.

As long as our souls are corrupt there will be no improvement. It isn’t enough to vote in an election. If the people we chose to lead us cannot discern from right and wrong, they will take the path of least resistance. Sodom and Gomorrah were not cleansed at the ballot box.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Take, for example, Uncle Sam’s economic statistics. Does anyone really believe that only 5.8% of working age people are unemployed? Of course, leftists do. But for the rest of us, we know the government doctors figures, emphasizes the unimportant, and deemphasizes the useful to make the economy look better than it really is . . . .

He's right. But there are so many Census, BLS, and other government tables. Even the Employment Situation tables have the truth you just have to look a little. Even the MSM employees know about the labor force participation rate.

I have the time to look for those other tables. The "progressives" like to compare Reagan and Obama administrations vis-a-vis the economy. The tables help prove that whatever Obama claimed the unemployment rate was earlier this year is a lie even without considering labor force participation rate.

Comparing Reagan to Obama.. job numbers. Here's just one source.

Source:

Choose Total nonfarm, Seasonally adjusted then

• scroll down and click Retrieve Data button
• Change Output Options from date to 1979,
• Click Go button.

(abridged) Total nonfarm seasonally adjusted employed Establishment Data 1979 - 2014
Series Id: CES0000000001
Seasonally Adjusted
Super Sector: Total nonfarm
Industry: Total nonfarm
NAICS Code: -
Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Annual
1979	88810	89054	89480	89418	89791	90109	90215	90297	90325	90482	90576	90673
1980	90802	90882	90994	90850	90419	90099	89837	90097	90210	90491	90748	90943
1981	91037	91105	91210	91283	91293	91490	91602	91566	91479	91380	91171	90893
1982	90567	90562	90432	90152	90107	89864	89522	89364	89183	88906	88783	88769
1983	88993	88918	89090	89366	89643	90022	90440	90132	91247	91518	91871	92227
1984	92673	93154	93429	93792	94100	94479	94792	95034	95344	95630	95979	96107
1985	96373	96497	96843	97039	97313	97459	97649	97842	98045	98233	98442	98609
1986	98734	98841	98935	99122	99249	99155	99473	99587	99934	100120	100306	100511
1987	100683	100915	101164	101502	101728	101900	102247	102418	102646	103138	103370	103664
. . .
2007	137448	137536	137724	137802	137946	138017	137984	137968	138053	138135	138253	138350
2008	138365	138279	138199	137985	137803	137631	137421	137162	136710	136236	135471	134774
2009	133976	133275	132449	131765	131411	130944	130617	130401	130174	129976	129970	129687
2010	129705	129655	129811	130062	130578	130456	130395	130353	130296	130537	130674	130745
2011	130815	130983	131195	131517	131619	131836	131942	132064	132285	132468	132632	132828
2012	133188	133414	133657	133753	133863	133951	134111	134261	134422	134647	134850	135064
2013	135261	135541	135682	135885	136084	136285	136434	136636	136800	137037	137311	137395
2014	137539	137761	137964	138268	138497	138764	139007	139210	139481	139724(P)	140045(P)
2015	????

Re: 2009 and 2010. While those Dem pukes were gallivanting around Washington with their victory and opportunity to use health care to fundamentally change America into a Marxist, centrally controlled state 8,660,000 Americans lost their jobs. Starting with election years

Reagan years, Jan. of each year 1980 - 1987

• 90802
• 91037
• 90567
• 88993
• 92673
• 96373
• 98734

Obama years, Jan. of each year 2008 - 2014

• 138365
• 133976
• 129705
• 130815
• 133188
• 135261
• 137539

Using column A in a spread sheet for each administration

• subtract prior year from current year (=A2 - A1) that gives year-to-year gains and losses:
  • Reagan
    • 235
    • -470
    • -1574
    • 3680
    • 3700
    • 2361
    and
  • Obama
    • -4389
    • -4271
    • 1110
    • 2373
    • 2073
    • 2278
    respectively;
  • then
  • =sum(gains) - sum(abs(losses)) and
  • add that to quantity from the election year of the administration and
  • it should equal the value of the last year being considered here; finally
  • the difference between the first and last years being considered is the difference between Reagan and Obama; to wit,
    • Reagan: 7,932,000 more jobs in January of the last year being considered than were in January of year one;
    • Obama: 826,000 (826,000!) fewer jobs in January of the last year being considered than were in January of year one.

Of course I could have done that last step and been done with it but

• look what was happening to millions of families while
• the aging 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their ideological litters (Obama, et al.) were consumed during the first two years of Obama with destroying our health care system;
• well over eight-and-one-half million Americans lost
  • jobs,
  • many lost homes, and
  • all lost much of what they worked for years to get;

That's what Senator Schumer was referring to. .. and what of the domestic millions added to the population and the tens of millions more that Obama and the Republican Chamber of Commerce are inviting to "Come on in!"?

The reason I wanted to try to step through this carefully as I can be is that I cannot believe that such things happen in America. That the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats really did get control.. it really happened just like I feared that it would.