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More States Join Lawsuit against Obama's Immigration Order
Governing ^ | December 15, 2014 | Kevin Baxter

Posted on 12/16/2014 5:05:43 AM PST by Hostage

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To: Hostage

But a permanent injunction stops him until there is a “trial on the merits” and ALL appeals are exhausted (years).

I think this is what Abbot seeks.

The real damage here is that future presidents will be sooooo tempted to “do it” in the future because Obama “did it” and got away with “it”.

So, the 3 legs of government are in danger of being sawed off permanently here in this one case. If so, future Presidents can play dictator any ole time they want.


61 posted on 12/16/2014 8:33:18 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: chrisnj

>> amnesty is a tool to draw them out to be deported.

Write that in spanish and let’s spread the rumor


62 posted on 12/16/2014 9:02:51 AM PST by Ray76 (Who gave the stand down order? Benghazi? Ferguson?)
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To: butterdezillion

The status quo is that tens of millions of illegal aliens present in the USA are without IDs, Drivers Licenses, SSNs, Work Permits, Federal Benefits and other things particularly voter registrations. They are undocumented.

The status quo is they are undocumented and a preliminary injunction serving to maintain the status quo until the legal process is underway will stop Obama by prohibiting people that carry out his directives and orders from implementing Executive Amnesty, else there will be criminal incarceration and penalties and this applies to any federal contractors that are engaged or would be engaged in the action to document illegals.


63 posted on 12/16/2014 9:09:11 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Does anyone have a listing of the states sueing? Any blue states?


I wondered if there is a list somewhere and I’ve not been able to find out. If you get a response, please let me know. Thanks.


64 posted on 12/16/2014 9:10:28 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Hostage; Old Sarge

Federal judges have been bought and paid for by this regime. Obama could care less about the Constitution and the GOPe doesn’t have the balls to stop him.

As Old Sarge said. We are DONE.


65 posted on 12/16/2014 9:12:46 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Hostage

The lawless ones will find a judge to rule that the 24 states have not standing.


66 posted on 12/16/2014 9:22:06 AM PST by Revel
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To: Tennessee Nana

STATE OF TEXAS;
STATE OF ALABAMA;
STATE OF GEORGIA;
STATE OF IDAHO;
STATE OF INDIANA;
STATE OF KANSAS;
STATE OF LOUISIANA;
STATE OF MONTANA;
STATE OF NEBRASKA;
STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA;
STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA;
STATE OF UTAH;
STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA;
STATE OF WISCONSIN

GOVERNOR PHIL BRYANT, State of Mississippi;
GOVERNOR PAUL R. LEPAGE, State of Maine;
GOVERNOR PATRICK L. MCCRORY, State of North Carolina;
GOVERNOR C.L. “BUTCH” OTTER, State of Idaho.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/files/epress/files/20141203ImmigrationExecutiveOrderLawsuit.pdf


67 posted on 12/16/2014 9:23:15 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Blue Turtle

The funding won’t matter.

The only thing that could get around a federal court order is LEGISLATIVE AMNESTY as opposed to what these lawsuits are addressing which is EXECUTIVE AMNESTY.

Legislative amnesty would be the comprehensive immigration reform bill that the Senate has passed. The House would need to bring it up for a vote. Boehner could possibly cram it through using all the democrats and breaking the Hastert rule which he is prone to do. But in the next Congress it is not yet known if Boehner can cram it through. It’s an uncertainty at present.

After Legislative Amnesty there is a fallback on the Supreme Court by the States as they are harmed by any effort at amnesty.

The final fallback is Article V.


68 posted on 12/16/2014 9:28:44 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Political Junkie Too

US Marshals assigned to Judge’s court.


69 posted on 12/16/2014 9:30:17 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Yep. You got it.

Abbot said this case is not about immigration, it’s about the Constitution.


70 posted on 12/16/2014 9:35:13 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Labyrinthos
"What executive order? I have yet to see a copy."

I have yet to see that question answered on all these illegal immigration threads.

However, since the Fedgov chief executive has authority over all the departments and agencies, maybe he only needs to give verbal orders? Of course, this one is against the will of Congress, not to mention the "original intent" of the Founding Fathers.

The USSC has often ruled against "original intent" - the latest being Obambicare. People are now forced to buy a commercial product/service under penalty of law. I've seen a lot of bad decisions by the USSC in my political life, but that one is up there with Roe vs Wade.

Thanks Justice Roberts and you other socialists Supremes for ignoring the explicit wording of ACA about paying a penalty and renaming it a legal tax. I'll never get how he came to that conclusion. The wording of "penalty" (not tax) is in the legislation as we all know. Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I'm still angry.

71 posted on 12/16/2014 9:56:39 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: mazda77

Did you know that Boehner and 55 republican congressmen—Mitch McConnell and 25 republican liberal senators VOTED TO FUND THE ILLEGAL AMNESTY BY OBAMA? Please note the absolute capitulation in the establishment. The law suit is great but how can these liars FUND THE DICTATOR?? UCMTU.


72 posted on 12/16/2014 11:03:01 AM PST by iowacornman (Romney is the father of government health care.)
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To: SumProVita
Tennessee SHOULD be on that list. Looks like we need to make some noise!

Don't look for much out of Haslam. Eric's people done paid a visit to the family Corp. The State General Assembly may act though despite him.

73 posted on 12/16/2014 3:41:51 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: mazda77

Enthusiastically spread the word about the “Protest Against Obama Amnesty” rally across America for 2015-01-03 ... Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions, Mike Lee (et al) will GREATLY appreciate our support ... A great Patriot turn-out WILL encourage the Senate and House GOP to dump McConnell and Boehner ... God Bless America ... Facebook page “Obama Amnesty National Protest : 2015-01-03” ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=680NlRI3v2I ... Thanks to All !!!


74 posted on 12/17/2014 5:09:33 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Ray76; All

Can anyone translate this into Spanish? -

“Obama’s amnesty is a tool to draw the illegals out to be deported”

Should we all go to the Spanish message boards/communities, or use Twitters, facebook, etc to blast this all over the cyberspace?
or sneak this into our conversation with anybody and everybody.


75 posted on 12/17/2014 6:11:35 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: chrisnj

Sure


76 posted on 12/17/2014 8:17:20 AM PST by Ray76 (Who gave the stand down order in Ferguson? Who gave the stand down order in Benghazi?)
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To: Old Sarge

” This latest episode with the GOPe funding everything Obola wants was the final proof: he is going to get everything he wants.”

Yep


77 posted on 12/17/2014 11:41:14 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: Hostage

Hostage wrote:
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A federal judge has the power to stop any of Obama’s people or contractors from carrying out his orders or directives. Any person that violates a court order is subject to arrest and will be put in jail.
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Not disagreeing with what you’re saying, but do you think the current Department of Justice would ever allow anything like that to happen to Obama?


78 posted on 12/18/2014 11:02:04 AM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Justice department is not in the loop at all.

US Marshals assigned to Judge’s Court carry out enforcement for Courts.

The Federal Judiciary is completely independent in all its operations save for one reliance written into the Constitution which is ultimately a question of budget that comes from Congress.

So there is no need to be concerned that a Judge will not be equipped to carry out justice.

The wildcard in all of this, if one is inclined to look for such things, is the question of whether the DC Judge will follow the law or not. The DC Judge assigned to this case has a pre-judgeship background that is a cause for concern but maybe not. No one really knows. The concern is that this Judge is reported to have been at one time a lead counsel for Patrick Leahy, the notorious liberal politician. But that doesn’t mean much if a Judge has a reputation for following the law. If this Judge follows the law next week, then Obama’s people and contractors are stopped. If this Judge does not follow the law but instead twists Obama’s narrative to fit a political goal, then Klayman I am sure has prepared an immediate appeal, at least I hope so.

Two things that are positive but not really meaningful because ultimately it’s a toss of the coin, are that the Judge assigned to this case did in fact grant over Obama’s lawyer’s objections, plaintiff’s request for fast track which is why the hearing is to be held this coming Monday.

The second thing is that Klayman who is the lead plaintiff counsel, is experienced and successful in DC Courts.

But again we can all be surprised so I am not raising my expectations. I will just watch the play by play.


79 posted on 12/18/2014 11:19:22 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage; DestroyLiberalism

Oh, and of course the US Marshals are not going to be arresting or serving summons on Obama or his White House. They will be serving such on federal employees and on federal contractors.

The fact is that Obama cannot carry out his executive actions without people. If those people are stopped by a federal court order, then Obama is effectively stopped.


80 posted on 12/18/2014 11:21:53 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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