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Urgent: UN Arms Treaty Begins Today! Executive Order Could Be Imminent!
Conservitive Daily ^ | Dec. 24, 2014 | Joe Otto

Posted on 12/24/2014 10:36:34 AM PST by drypowder

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To: MacNaughton

“I am convinced the feds (NSA, DoHS) are already covertly identifying firearm owners and keeping the records hidden despite U.S. law forbidding such record keeping.”

In some (maybe most) of the time there is a record of you buying a firearm, but that doesn’t equate to you owning one.


41 posted on 12/25/2014 6:18:31 AM PST by babygene
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To: drypowder

Blessed Christmas and a happy, healthy and prosperous 2015. Always remember, blue helmets make excellent targets!


42 posted on 12/25/2014 7:24:38 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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I’ll shoot the first blue helmet through and through that shows up on my doorstep with or without it.

Small edit.

43 posted on 12/25/2014 7:25:51 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: drypowder

has congress already abdicated their responsibility and power to approve treaties?


44 posted on 12/25/2014 7:26:57 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Defund , sue, impeach. Overturn Obamacare, amnesty.)
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Understood


45 posted on 12/25/2014 7:51:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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41 ... In some (maybe most) of the time there is a record of you buying a firearm, but that doesn’t equate to you owning one.

Feral law requires that FFL holders, i.e., gun dealers, must keep all of the BATFE Form 4473s on the premises of their businesses. LEOs can look at these records anytime, just not remove them from the premises. When a business closes shop, BATFE takes possession of the forms. So they already have a database of the closed shops. How hard would it be for a LEO to take his cell phone into an existing business and snap photos of those forms and compile them into a database?

Think of all the other ways the ferals can identify private gun owners - (1) if you pay for a gun/ammo transaction with a credit card, you can be traced, (2) the U.S. Postal Service can scan the mailing labels of all those NRA and other gun/hunting magazines, (3) if you possess a pistol license or hunting license, you are already in a state database, (4) if you buy a feral duck hunting stamp you are already in a feral database, (5) under ObamaCare, physicians will become more intrusive into your private life and ask you whether you have guns at home - this info will find its way into a feral database, (6) Congress can at anytime repeal the Tiahrt Amendment and the DoJ/BATFE's firearms tracing database could become public knowledge to the newspapers, (7) the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act, which prohibits the registration of firearms records, can be repealed by Congress, and finally,(8) the National Instant Criminal Background Check mandated by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (Brady Law) of 1993 requires a background check be completed within 3 days for all firearm purchases from a FFL holder and that no record be kept of that inquiry. How hard would it be to funnel those background checks into a covert feral database?

When the day arrives, the ferals won't need an exact accounting of all gun owners. All they will have to do is make examples of high profile targeted groups in each state. After that, either the sheeple feebly fall in line or we have CWII.

46 posted on 12/25/2014 12:04:48 PM PST by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/video-2/new-york-gun-owners-refuse-to-comply-with-new-gun-laws-what-happens-next


47 posted on 12/25/2014 2:15:24 PM PST by babygene
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Thanks for that article. I really hadn't read much on how the NY and CT gun owners were responding to their new state draconian firearm laws. It is telling that Gov. Cuomo, who doesn't believe gun owners possess "NY values", has not put the hammer down, yet. It will be interesting to watch what Mayor-Kaiser Wilhem Comrad de Bolshevik does, especially with the furball he is in right now with the NYPD.

It may be a hopeful sign. Billionaire and former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg is still out there crossing the land spending $$$ to defeat the 2nd Amendment.

I maintain that BHO, or his Dhimmicrat/Demonrat successors, are prepositioning their chess pieces for some future feral action against gun owners.

544-496 B.C. - Sun Tzu: Chinese military general, strategist and philosopher. He is traditionally credited as the author of The Art of War, an extremely influential ancient Chinese book on military strategy. Some of its principles listed below correlate with Saul Alinsky’s 13 rules for radicals (1971). It is still studied by today’s military colleges and has been adapted for use by business leaders.

 All warfare is based on deception.
 If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him.
 Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.
 If he is taking his ease, give him no rest.
 Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
 If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
 The best strategies are those that gain victory without fighting.
 To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
 So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
 Move not unless you see an advantage; use not your troops unless there is something to be gained; fight not unless the position is critical.
 If you see your enemy destroying himself, do not interfere.

48 posted on 12/25/2014 3:07:10 PM PST by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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