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Discovery of Bourbon Virus Raises Many Questions
Medscape ^ | Dec 24, 2014 | Robert Lowes

Posted on 12/26/2014 8:02:19 AM PST by AdmSmith

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To: AdmSmith

AdmSith, IMO CDC are fools.

Anyway, I know all about ticks and tick prevention. It’s still like trying to fight tricky Serbian snipers. You can do it, but all it takes is one to get you.

Guinea Hens, permitherin, Deep Woods Off, etc. I use them all but you can still get nailed. I know, I’m fighting lyme now since May.


21 posted on 12/26/2014 8:56:37 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: AdmSmith

I wonder why Bourbon County is named Bourbon. My sixth great uncle invented Bourbon, Elijah Craig. Serial.


22 posted on 12/26/2014 8:56:51 AM PST by Mercat (Merry Christmas to all my freeper friends)
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To: AdmSmith

As long as there’s no Vodka Virus my brother-in-law is safe.


23 posted on 12/26/2014 8:56:53 AM PST by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack is back in 2014!)
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To: freeangel

The ticks are nasty things. http://www.tickencounter.org/prevention/top_ten_things_list

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/786652-overview

Terminate them!


24 posted on 12/26/2014 9:01:13 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: goldstategop

PRECISELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 12/26/2014 9:02:48 AM PST by ZULU (Quo usque tandem abutere Obama patientia nostra?)
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To: Brandonmark

Chick diseases? Don’t want any of that...


26 posted on 12/26/2014 9:07:12 AM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: AdmSmith

WARNING: I posted an article about this earlier today and it was pulled.


27 posted on 12/26/2014 9:08:41 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: AdmSmith

you are right about deer. but ticks also infest rabbits, coyotes, mice too.

I guess if one lives in the desert you’ll be OK.


28 posted on 12/26/2014 9:09:37 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: AdmSmith

for years the worry was just about deer ticks. Now the Lone Star is bad too, see below.

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/topics/tickborne/Pages/Default.aspx

When I was doing research on tick disease the summer, I found an article where a scientist (doctor) believes that Lone Star ticks are now able to give a Lyme like disease too.


29 posted on 12/26/2014 9:16:30 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: roofgoat
Yes, many animals are vectors, but:

By the early 20th century, commercial exploitation and unregulated hunting had severely depressed deer populations in much of their range. For example, by about 1930, the U.S. population was thought to number about 300,000.

After an outcry by hunters and other conservation ecologists, commercial exploitation of deer became illegal and conservation programs along with regulated hunting were introduced.

In 2005, estimates put the deer population in the United States at around 30 million. Conservation practices have proved so successful, in parts of their range, the white-tailed deer populations currently far exceed their cultural carrying capacity and the animal may be considered a nuisance. A reduction in natural predators (which normally cull young, sick, or infirm specimens) has undoubtedly contributed to locally abundant populations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-tailed_deer

This is the main reason for the increase in diseases transmitted by ticks

30 posted on 12/26/2014 9:26:01 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: roofgoat

All ticks are bad, not only http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixodes_scapularis


31 posted on 12/26/2014 9:27:50 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

I defy those facts AdmSmith! On my little 30 acres, I rarely see deer, especially during hunting season.

Yet I have ticks up to the gills.

I’m half joking.

I figure if I have to put up with ticks, then let Mother Nature allow me to have the deer too so I can eat them.

I do agree that explosive deer pops are a big problem.


32 posted on 12/26/2014 9:30:23 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: Red_Devil 232

“OMG! You mean I have to pour my Makers Mark down the drain?”

No, call me and I’ll dispose of it properly.


33 posted on 12/26/2014 9:31:48 AM PST by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Red_Devil 232
OMG! You mean I have to pour my Makers Mark down the drain?

Molon (hic) Labe!

34 posted on 12/26/2014 10:03:55 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Hanta virus titers have been discovered in the blood of people in the big rat-infested east coast cities. It is a strain carried by the rats that is not harmful to humans. It is believed to cause liberalism however so it IS harmful to humanity.


35 posted on 12/26/2014 10:04:10 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: AdmSmith

Yes, we need to control the deer population by allowing more deer hunting.


36 posted on 12/26/2014 11:04:05 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: AdmSmith

Sure, but I don’t think deer range very far, so the ticks are not riding on them to get to a new continent. Rats and mice, on the other hand, are “frequent fliers”.


37 posted on 12/26/2014 2:48:06 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
the problem is that a lot of these viruses are similar in symptoms. If the man had come into my ER, I would have assumed he had Rocky Mountain Spotted fever, and put him on an antibiotic for this. True, he might also have had lyme disease, but the antibiotic for this is the same.

And most of these viruses get better on their own. Even the dreaded Rocky Mountain spotted fever probably does: Lots of folks in Oklahoma tested as having had the disease, but few remember ever being very sick.link. Since a lot of people test positive, if you have a person with a fever, you have to do TWO tests: one when they first come in, and one two weeks later. If they had RMSF, they might be dead by then, so you treat.

This being Oklahoma, a lot of people don't bother keeping the second appointment because they work for a living. And some of them got the tests, but it tested negative, so we didn't do any more testing

Here in the Philippines, we have lots of Dengue, most of which never go to the hospital. Now we also have chikungunya fever which has similar symptoms but not the hemorrhagic symptoms. Most people with both these diseases have mild cases and never see a physician, and those who do see a physician get better on their own. So we may have a few hundred reported cases, but the actual number is much higher. Most diseases are like that: mild cases that stay under the radar of detection until a big epidemic hits

In other words: These viruses are around, but no tests were available for them, or else the folks got better. Either way, it wasn't diagnosed. Now it is.

As for Hanta virus on the Navajo reservation: medicine men remembered a similar epidemic in a rainy year many years earlier, which was a clue that it was not a "new" disease but one that had popped up again due to more rain (i.e. in this case, more mice).

Lots of these viruses around, and diseases such as bubonic plague (and I suspect Ebola and HIV) are "endemic" but usually stop after one or two cases. Then something happens, and voila, epidemics.

Ebola is spreading in an area decimated by civil wars and a broken down infrastructure. HIV spread due to the opening of isolated villages to roads and because long haul truckdrivers tended to visit the local ladies (as they do in the US). It spread in the US because gay pressure stopped the closing of the bathhouses which were the focal point of an epidemic of syphilis and hepatitis B.

However, if you really want to worry, I was reading about a hemorrhagic disease that killed a lot more Mexicans than smallpox etc.brought by the Spanish, and it was a local disease.LINK...if that one pops up again, the US might be affected.

38 posted on 12/26/2014 3:21:00 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: AdmSmith; roofgoat; LadyDoc

Information on research on controlling ticks with parasitic nematodes and funguses from the USDA:

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archive/mar98/tick0398.htm

Its a good article.

And from:

http://www.ehow.com/list_6383480_home-remedies-kill-ticks-yard.html?ref=Track2&utm_source=ask

“Nematodes are microscopic worms that kill insects and other organisms, such as ticks, by invading their bodies and releasing bacteria. The bacteria becomes toxic and destroys the tick from the inside. World Radio Switzerland includes information on its website about the effectiveness of nematodes (specifically S. feltiae) in yard treatments to eliminate ticks. Other homeopathic enthusiasts recommend these creatures as well, and most agree that nematodes are one of the better home remedies to use for ticks in the yard.”

More information here:

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/nematodes-ticks-72724.html

“Any beneficial nematode product should be applied to moist soil early in the morning or at dusk as they are sensitive to the light. Be sure to select a product with a nematode species effective against ticks. Products containing Steinernema feltiae and Heterorhabditis bacteriophora have proven to be most useful. However, with more resistance to chemicals developing in the insect world, research is ongoing to find and develop more effective nematode predators.”


39 posted on 12/26/2014 7:05:44 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: AdmSmith

Gee did anyone ever think of Ebola, maybe contact with someone who visited So Africa?


40 posted on 12/26/2014 7:09:21 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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