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Posted on 12/26/2014 10:19:05 AM PST by Star Traveler
You knew this had to happen. While Samsung and other Android smartphone vendors bask in the glory of marketshare vs. Apple’s iPhone and iPad, it’s Apple that walks away with most of the profits. Without profits, tech companies have to tighten their belts, cut back on R&D (research and development), close stores, and reduce the product line.
Guess which high profile tech company is doing all that?
If you guessed Apple, you’d be so far off the mark that you’re probably in need of public assistance for watching too much Faux News and reading Business Insider. It’s not Apple. It’s Samsung.
The Korean giant’s profits have been on the wane for a year, matched in dropping velocity only by the mostly flatlined stock price. Samsung has cut back on the number of smartphone and tablet models, reduced spending, laid off employees, and now it’s in the process of shuttering a flagship store.
(Excerpt) Read more at pixobebo.com ...
Apple has been due to disappear for the last several decades ... LOL ...
You would think that after a couple of decades, these naysayers would be way too embarrassed to keep parroting the same failed prognostication ... :-) ...
Some people are all for free enterprise ... but ... “pile on” when a company is making way too much money from happy customers ... LOL ...
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Hmmmm. . . just like your 10X figure for Apple computing costs. . .
Wozniak wanted to GIVE his computers away... not sell them. He was not even interested in making money. Don't give me that crap that open systems is capitalism . . . it isn't. Apple was practicing capitalism. Making a product that people wanted and selling it. . . and had NO OBLIGATION to make it open like you seem to think they did. Steve Jobs wanted to sell the original Mac for $1695, but was overruled by the CEO of the company. . . a guy he hired. . . and and it was put on the market for the SAME price IBM was selling their computer for, $2495. You make the mistake of conflating free market with open source.
Bill Gates was no "wise and true free market capitalist." Bill Gates was a pirate. . . who would steal anything that was not nailed down and even then if no one was looking. You have no clue about what made Steve Jobs great. . . or why his technologies and vision remade FIVE industries. . . without ever being a monopolist. Gates made a monopoly and acted like a monopolist. . . and was slapped down for it.
Frankly, I don't think you have a clue what a "free market capitalist" is from what you have written, and i say that from being educated as an Economist.
Indeed. That was pathetic.
Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.
If Macs are built to become "obsolete in 1-2 years," why is my late 2007 27" iMac still going strong after seven years, running OS X.10 Yosemite. . . without a problem? I was just offered $575 by a local computer RE-SELLER for that iMac. . . because he can resell every one he gets his hands on. We just sold our office's 8 year old Mac Pro for $900. . . and replaced it with a five year old model which we paid $1250 (I found a real bargain from a guy who was moving and downsizing and had only a short time to move it) because we needed one we could expand the RAM further. Can you say the same thing about ANY Windows PC that is SEVEN YEARS OLD?I know you cannot.
The simple fact is, adorno, is that we DON'T pay a high price for something we can get a much lower prices. We are NOT stupid. The factual situation is that EVERY SINGLE analysis of Total Cost of Ownership has shown that it is FAR LESS EXPENSIVE in the long run to buy an Apple Macintosh than it is to buy one of those cheap Windows computers. . . and a good portion of that lower cost is the recovery made when the computer is resold on upgrade.
My original iPhone, purchased on the day the iPhones were released on June 29, 2007, was handed down through family members and finally retired as a phone last march but continues in use as an iPod touch being used by my three year old granddaughter, 7 1/2 years AFTER it was put in service. . . all on the original battery which still has approximately 80% discharge time left after charging. . . and in the meantime I have not paid ONE RED CENT to upgrade to the latest and greater iPhones as they came out because I can SELL each previous model for MORE than the cost to upgrade. . . something you cannot do with any other smartphone make two years after they come out.
As an example, a fellow I know went with me when I upgraded to the iPhone 5 three years ago. . . to upgrade his latest and greatest Samsung flagship phone he had purchased for FULL UNLOCKED RETAIL of $649, not three months before. . . which he had grown to hate. I was offered a trade in of $275 for my two year old iPhone 4S which covered the entire upgrade and activation costs plus some for my upgrade. . . but his three month old, top of the line Samsung—which was still being sold for that high price—was worth only $64.95 in trade in! When asked why, the answer was that "No one wants them!" He went ahead and paid full bore for an iPhone 5 and switched his phone service to it.
And, most of us have BEEN users of the Windows junk. . . and you could not pay us to go back to that hell. Many of the iPhone users have been Android users and the same situation is true. They simply do not WANT to spend their time tweaking their phones to get them to work and downloading apps to find the best stuff they simply get already with the iPhone.
Samsung is losing money because their phone division is dragging down ALL of their company. . .
Not that I have seen with Apple. The article's reference to Apple was the change in the charging plug. . . but there are good engineering reasons for that change. . . and they have not discontinued the previous 30 pin chargers which are still available in the Apple store and from literally dozens of 3rd partly licensed and unlicensed sources. My originally iPhone, which I purchased on the day they came out, June 29, 2007, has operated continuously since that day as a phone until last March, being passed down through my family, until it was finally retired as a phone, but continues being used as an iPod touch by my three year old granddaughter. . . all on the same "non-replaceable battery," which still will take an 80% charge after 7 1/2 years.
My 2007 27" iMac is still going strong and was just upgraded to run OS X.10 Yosemite, the latest and greatest Macintosh Operating System. . . and it runs several instances of Windows—XP, 7, 8.1—as well as Linux—two versions—in Virtual Machines in Sandboxes under OS X (and I have run them all at the same time, just to see if I could) as well as the underlying UNIX™ OS. . . and have installs for MS-DOS, THEOS, and several other OSes if I have need of them. All that on a SEVEN YEAR old computer. Where is the design for obsolescence???? I was offered $575 for that iMac a couple of months ago by a local computer reseller because he can sell every one he can get his hands on.
Same thing for iPhones. . . my daughter just upgraded her iPhone 4s to an iPhone 6. . . and sold the 4S, a four year old iPhone, for $175 which covered the cost for her new 6 on sale at Walmart. That's an iPhone with one of those old 30 pin connectors. . . it will be referred and resold in a 3rd world country. Not Obsolete yet.
Exact;y WHAT monopoly is that, Wonder Warthog? Computers? Cellphones? Music Players? What? How did "Apple PC was and remains a small niche player in the PC market" result in creating a company that became more valuable than Exxon Mobile or more valuable than every business in Russia or have more cash on hand than the United States Government or a greater net worth than 85 nations. . . combined? Exactly WHAT monopoly? Please elucidate. How did he enforce this monopoly? What weapon of the monopolist did he use? What companies did he force out of business through predatory low pricing?
In exactly WHAT MARKET did Apple have a monopoly? Apple products? That's like saying that Ford Motor Company has a monopoly on Ford Cars and Trucks. Or that Wonder Warthog has a monopoly on Wonder Warthog's labor.
Oh right. . . Samsung's CEO is a convicted criminal. . . and you prefer Samsung. Right. You would.
I was referring to Samsung not Apple. I would venture to guess that networked devices might be crippled online rather than a chip being used in the future. The technology definitely exists and it would make it very difficult to detect and they know this...
Oh, adorno. . . People have been saying that phrase for 30 years. . . they've been wrong. The iPad alone brought in more profits than Samsung's phones did this year. The Mac is up 21% this year over year and selling record numbers while the overall PC market is down 18%. . . including the Mac sales. Your "niche Macs" are now the number 3 computer seller in the United States, unseating Lenovo. In Worldwide sales, Apple is number 5. Some Niche. A couple of the companies who track computer sales are now counting tablet sales in with computers. . . and those two companies place Apple as the number ONE seller of computers in the world by a long shot.
One trick pony? Apple Pay is just taking off and will be a major profit point for Apple. . . after just one month after introduction for use only on iPhone 6 and 6plus, 1% of ALL digital payments in the world were done with Apple Pay, despite it being only available in the US. Compare that to the 4% Google Wallet commands after more than THREE YEARS availability around the world on Android phones. The iPad portion of Apple's business generated more profit this year than all of Samsung's smartphone business after deducting for Samsung's marketing. Apple's iTunes store generated $12 Billion in revenues in 2014. The Apple Mac takes home 53% of all the profits in the world's PC markets. The iPhone takes home 87% of the profits in the mobile phone handset market. . . not just smartphone, all phones. One trick pony, my rear end.
There I have to agree with you. . . when I got together wilt my girlfriend, she had a drawer full of obsolete smartphones. . . all Samsung that had quit before the end of her contracts and had to be replaced at her expense. Now she swears by Apple iPhones.
She used to swear at her Dell laptop computer. . . and believed the crap that was spread about Apple Macs. I let her use mine a few times. . . and she tossed her Dell in the garbage (literally, after i backed up her photos and stuff) and had me take her down to the Apple Store and she bought a MacBook Air. She's never been happier.
Unfortunately, her work (she works at home) supplies her with a Dell computer that she has to work with. . . and she swears at it daily. . . especially after the IT department does something new to it. It is frequently down. . . and sometimes will not work with their online partners, and sometimes won't allow her to connect to their VPN. I can't touch it because it's proprietary even though I KNOW what the problems are and could fix it for them, but then they couldn't get the big money they are bamboozling out of management. So I leave it alone. . . and she gets on her Mac and gets her work done. We just won't tell them that's what she's doing. LOL!
At least her work is enlightened and now provides an iPhone for work. YAY! Maybe they will get rid of the IT department guys and get Macs for their employees. Their productivity would skyrocket. . . just by getting rid of all that down time.
Yup, just like Jobs. However, the difference was that Gates actually believed in and practiced competition on a scale that Jobs and Apple were incapable of or unwilling to do.
"You have no clue about what made Steve Jobs great. . . or why his technologies and vision remade FIVE industries. . . without ever being a monopolist. Gates made a monopoly and acted like a monopolist. . . and was slapped down for it.
Ah, you mean because I don't think Jobs walked on water. He didn't. He was a moral and ethical scumbag.
"Frankly, I don't think you have a clue what a "free market capitalist" is from what you have written, and i say that from being educated as an Economist."
Possibly not. I happen to think that businesses have more responsibilities than simply to "return maximum shareholder profit".
"Exact;y WHAT monopoly is that, Wonder Warthog? Computers? Cellphones? Music Players? What? How did "Apple PC was and remains a small niche player in the PC market" result in creating a company that became more valuable than Exxon Mobile or more valuable than every business in Russia or have more cash on hand than the United States Government or a greater net worth than 85 nations. . . combined? Exactly WHAT monopoly? Please elucidate. How did he enforce this monopoly? What weapon of the monopolist did he use? What companies did he force out of business through predatory low pricing?
Note that I said TRIED to establish a monopoly. Fortunately, the competition of the rest of the computer world prevented that, for the most part. But the practices of all of the technologies Apple produced were attempts to monopolize control. Jobs succeeded not by competition, but by innovation of establishing NEW market niches for computerization, and by playing them as monopolies for as long as that was possible.
But the Apple "Personal Computer" business remains a small player. "Wintel" owns the desktop and laptop computer industry as a whole. If I buy an Agilent Gas Chromatograph, or a Dionex ion chromatograph, or any other piece of scientific electronic hardware, it WILL be run by a "Wintel" computer. And this is true across the board.
I guess all you tech-wise freepers understand these things. Me? Not so much. My daughter gave me a Samsung Galaxy5 for Thanksgiving present…Best Buy was giving them away for $1 plus a two-year contract with Verizon— Verizon being the only company that provides good service to her very rural location, that was perfect.
So I should be happy?
I am totally flummoxed by this thing…if I can just make calls and send texts, that’s really all I want. But even that is a miserable experience.
A youtube how-to use the Galaxy5 refers to Samsung as Samsh*t and now I know why. To be fair tho, a techie will not have the same problems I have with it….probably not.
Does anyone like this thing?
And yet you are still reading the thread.
Pocket full of money? You could certainly had one if you had ignored Michael Dells advice to sell your Apple Stock.
Thank you mylife.
I am glad there are people smart enough to decide what I need.
Very conservative attitude.
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