US Deaths And Treasure In Vain?
Don’t know. But it’s high time we stopped pouring our borrowed billions down that rahole.
We may have lost the war, but at least we won a battle (or tied).
Today the Taliban is probably more powerful and pervasive than it was in 2001. The US squandered a huge human and material treasure. Neither the security of the US or Afghanistan was enhanced. It would be nice to say that the US has learned that interference in these alien cultures is a futile endeavor but it does not seem that the experience in Iraq and Afghanistan has taught our leaders anything.
Some nations (in fact most nations) can’t be “built.”
I doubt Taliban can ever be prevented from returning to power, excepting a permanent US presence there. Unfortunately, Pakistan seems to be the real enemy.
Simply ban any and all Pakistanis from entering the USA.
Ok well we made things worse that they were before so we will be leaving now. See ya.
Active Duty ping.
Good. Bring the rest of our men and women home, let the muzzies kill each other and their demon god can sort them out.
.... This move is not about America .... It's about the promises that the self appointed "Demigod" made at the beginning of the term of office as the President of the United States.
.... He swore that he would uphold the Constitution of the United States of America ..... this man lied.
I’m sure I’ll get flamed really bad for this, but we should’ve gone in, got the job done, then brought our military home.
A powerful empire invades Afghanistan to make them “behave”. And it fails?
Much like Vietnam, both Iraq and Afghanistan were attempts to bring Western cultural values of freedom and goverernance to places that did not want it. When a nation is a majority moslem, Republic ideals will not be accepted. They want a tyrant type of control as was present in the tribal cultural of Mohammed. If we havelewrned anything is that iIslam is a lie and those those that follow it will never ally themselves with the freedom loving natioins of the world. We should never provide material a isn’t in such conuntries believing that there will be a return of generosity.... There will not and therefore, only total warfare should be handed over until the enemy within is destroyed. Save the lives of our men and women , not the host population who have time and again where their alligence falls....and it has never been with the US!
The Constitution of Afghanistan is officially Islamic. The problem is ISLAM. Islam is inherently and incurably evil. Since the problem was not only ignored but strenuously and officially denied it was impossible to solve right from the beginning.
History teaches he was absolutely right.
I think that imposing the rules of law and democracy on any Islamic country is exactly the same.
We'd better build a strip of defenses with a huge wall full of missiles, cams, etc. dividing the Western world from the Islamic dirthole and let them live, die, kill themselves, etc. at their will and no immigration from there, either legal or illegal! I'm sure the price of all the necessary facilities to achieve the goal will be surely lower than the one we've already paid during the military missions.
The history of Poland teaches that any agreements with Islam make no sense. The only language they understand is the language of the brute force, just like my ancestors used in the past to stop them. Tertium non datur.
the president might be claiming it is the end of the fighting but the truth is that there still are going to be men in country. My guess is that it is going to be real dangerous for those over there because we no longer have the proper support structure in the country. I would not be surprised if the president declared it a formal end of hostilities so he would not have count the wounded and dead after this point. because I am betting it is going to be high.
Korea - Vietnam - First Gulf War - Iraq - Afghanistan
Damn I do appreciate the NYT news items from WWll such as today’s, “U.S. TANKS SMASH INTO BASTOGNE, BREAK SIEGE; FOE’S SPEARHEAD NEAR MEUSE DRIVEN BACK (12/28/44)”.
Helps me think back to a time when the politicians allowed the military to win.
Every one of the wars listed above was won by the military and surrendered by the politicians. Both Republican and Democrat.
Well, its all on the national credit card, so its not really our treasure. And only 1% serve, so its not really our blood either. I say they, oops, I mean we, stay.
Short answer: yes. Treasure and lives wasted.. Should’ve going in with a hammer, and gotten out quickly. Nationbuilding just simply does not work. When will we ever learn?