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Obama's 'Free' Community College Plan Could Cost $34B Per Year
The Weekly Standard ^ | January 9, 2015 | JERYL BIER

Posted on 01/09/2015 7:27:37 AM PST by yoe

(According to) to Justin Sink of the Hill, Cecilia Muñoz, director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, declined to put a price tag on the plan during a conference call Thursday evening. Rather Muñoz said details of the plan will be in the president's next budget proposal.

However, the president's announcement said that the plan could benefit as many as nine million students who could save an average of $3,800 per year. This would put the total cost at a little more than $34 billion.

In a (video) accompanying the announcement, the president said that his plan would be "making two years of community college free for anyone who's willing to work for it." At $34 billion per year, taxpayers at least will be working for it, willing or not.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communitycollege; indoctrination; nofreelunch; wortheverypenny
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To: yoe

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So Basically Public Education has failed big time. If we need to give community college for free to get students up to the 7th grade level, something must be wrong with K-12 Government Education.

What a joke.


21 posted on 01/09/2015 7:46:24 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: JPG

Best evidence yet that public education is a failure.


22 posted on 01/09/2015 7:46:56 AM PST by Makana ("Never laugh at a live dragon. - JRR Tolkien)
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To: griswold3

Interesting and an important point.

The things Obama says and wants to do have nothing to do with need or reality but serve as vehicles.


23 posted on 01/09/2015 7:47:53 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: yoe

This is a feint! This is being used to draw our attention away from the Islamic threats across the pond and other various sundry garbage going on in DC.


24 posted on 01/09/2015 7:49:24 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ifinnegan

CC has become pricey here in SC.


25 posted on 01/09/2015 7:49:39 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: yoe

If it is “free” to everyone, then it is certain to be free to the illegals. I believe this is one of the driving forces behind this ploy.


26 posted on 01/09/2015 7:49:52 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: yoe
Yes, this is about pandering to those who want and think they deserve freebies, and is about throwing more money the way of teachers unions and the academic community that is already incredibly dependent upon federal money.

To deal with this kind of ‘populist’ pandering, you have to fight fire with fire. For every proposal, a counter proposal that neuters their support groups. So, in this instance the Republican response should be -

“No, we have a cheaper, economically feasible alternative that empowers students, allows them to work while going to school (if they need to and wish to), and doesn't require spending significantly more money on additional ‘bricks and mortar’, especially when so many inner city schools are in need of replacement or upgrading.”

“Our proposal is to expand and support online learning, with national testing to determine if you learned the material. By law, if the testing is passed, then ALL higher educational institutions in the country that receive ANY federal funding (including Harvard, Princeton, Yale, and every IVY that receives federal research dollars) have to accept the credits for those online courses - with the same value as their own in house courses - if that student decides to apply to that school for the remaining two years of a four year education.”

“In order to make this feasible, anyone who has genuine expertise in an area of study can post online material for the students to study, either for free or for payment. The site that the student learned the material from will not be considered. Only that they pass a comprehensive exam that demonstrates their knowledge and mastery of the material.”

27 posted on 01/09/2015 7:51:23 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: griswold3

I wished that was here in SC while I was in high school. It wasn’t until a few years later I found that the tech college would let HS people take classes.


28 posted on 01/09/2015 7:52:03 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: yoe

Yeah, another promise of “free” stuff for nothing. They always promised we retired military folks a lot. But each year they continue to cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, you get the idea. Give illegals free stuff. Give deadbeats free stuff. Give the dimocrat base free stuff. Give the freeloaders free stuff. Who pays for all this “stuff”?????? The few that are truly out there trying to work for a living. All of us who did our jobs for 20+ years for the promise of certain things IF we did what we were suppose to do. We did. Then they cut our throats AFTER we are retired, time has been put in, and cannot do a danged thing about it after the fact. Stinking RINOcrat congress-scum don’t give a stinking damn.


29 posted on 01/09/2015 7:55:09 AM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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Sweet, lets transform communty college into Cabrini Green


30 posted on 01/09/2015 7:55:14 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
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To: yoe
"...the president said that his plan would be "making two years of community college free for anyone who's willing to work for it."

...as long as they promise not to take any of those silly economics courses...

31 posted on 01/09/2015 7:55:45 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: yoe

Where are the jobs for all the new graduates coming from?


32 posted on 01/09/2015 7:59:18 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: BenLurkin; yoe; All

34 billion? Obama won’t EA this until he drives the cost up to 100 billion.


33 posted on 01/09/2015 8:00:09 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Batting average 1,000 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

So Obama comes up with this plan just as Republicans take Congress majority. So the Republicans, if they vote this down, will be the bad guys and party of no free college money just in time for next Presidential election.

He didn’t attempt this when Harry Reid was in control, nope waits until Repubs are in the majority so it can have negative publicity during primaries and Presidential elections. They will beat this dead horse....ughhh


34 posted on 01/09/2015 8:03:34 AM PST by Engedi
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To: crusher2013

any program should require any student who takes fund for college that are free should be required to pay it back if they do not complete college. Seize their IRS refunds, levy bank accounts, be denied Welfare until paid.


35 posted on 01/09/2015 8:05:18 AM PST by Engedi
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To: yoe

One thing is certain, the fees charged by Community Colleges will become astronomical if the government starts paying the bills. Probably 5k per semester.

I think I’ll open a community college. Teach Bong making, rolling paper techniques, ammunition reloading, and beer can recycling.


36 posted on 01/09/2015 8:05:50 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: yoe

You sign up at community college never go and the college will split the Fee with you ?


37 posted on 01/09/2015 8:07:52 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: yoe

There’s ALREADY a plan for FREE college education.

It’s called the GI Bill. . .


38 posted on 01/09/2015 8:08:55 AM PST by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: yoe
$34B is a LOW number!!!

Once you put "free" in front of college, you will see almost every high school student enrolling into these "free" colleges, plus anyone out of work, plus those looking to bump-up their resumes, etc...

Plus, this will turn most 4-year colleges into a "graduate" school, of sorts, and their costs for those last two years will SKYROCKET!

This does NOT fix anything, costs too much, and only creates MORE problems! On Obama's checklist, that is a HAT TRICK!!
39 posted on 01/09/2015 8:09:21 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: yoe

You can always tell when the “chief” is in troubles....he stars shaking a new set of shiny beads, and saying “lookey here what I got for YOU!”

Squirrel!


40 posted on 01/09/2015 8:11:36 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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