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Labor Participation Rate Drops To Fresh 38 Year Low; Record 92.9 Million Not In Labor Force
Zero Hedge ^
| 01/09/2015
| Tyler Durden
Posted on 01/09/2015 9:55:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Another month, another attempt by the BLS to mask the collapse in the US labor force with a goalseeked seasonally-adjusted surge in waiter, bartender and other low-paying jobs. Case in point: after a modest rebound by 0.1% in November, the labor participation rate just slid once more, dropping to 62.7%, or the lowest print since December 1977. This happened because the number of Americans not in the labor forced soared by 451,000 in December, far outpacing the 111,000 jobs added according to the Household Survey, and is the primary reason why the number of uenmployed Americans dropped by 383,000.
And another chart that will not be mentioned anywhere: the Civilian Employment to Population Ratio: at 59.2%, it is now unchanged for 4 months in a row.
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobs; laborforce; unemployment; unenjoyment
To: SeekAndFind
But, but, but Obama said this the bestest economy we’ve ever ever had and that he made the gas prices go down...
To: SeekAndFind
Totally unexpected. Ain’t Marxism grand.
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posted on
01/09/2015 9:59:07 AM PST
by
Jim Robinson
(Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
To: jsanders2001
Free Obama phones, free healthcare, free foodstamps for all.
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:00:33 AM PST
by
Jim Robinson
(Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
To: jsanders2001
And unemployment is only 5.7%.
According to the Bureau of Made-Up Statistics.
Next month it will be less than 5%.
Isn’t Barack dreamy? /s
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:02:54 AM PST
by
exit82
("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
To: SeekAndFind
quote “or the lowest print since December 1977”
hm.. interesting ... what happened in 1977... ?
oh yeah! that was the last time a liberal democrat was in charge!
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:10:48 AM PST
by
TexasFreeper2009
(Obama lied .. the economy died.)
To: exit82; TexasFreeper2009
Heres the right way to look at it (if we are realistic ):
In December, the civilian noninstitutional population was 249,027,000 according to BLS. Of that 249,027,000, 156,129,000or 62.7 percentparticipated in the labor force, meaning they either had or job or had actively sought one in the last four weeks.
Of the 156,129,000 who did participate in the labor force, 147,442,000 had a job and 8,688,000 did not have a job but actively sought one. Those 8,688,000 are the unemployed. They equaled 5.6 percent of the labor forceor an unemployment rate of 5.6 percent (which was down from the 5.8 percent unemployment rate in November).
However, a record 92,898,000 Americans 16 and older DID NOT participate in the labor force in December 2014, as the labor force participation rate dropped to 62.7 percent.
Thats 456,000 more than the 92,442,000 Americans who did not participate in November 2014.
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:23:26 AM PST
by
SeekAndFind
(If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
To: SeekAndFind
Funemployment funded by the chumps dumb enough to keep working. Tax day is just around the corner.
To: exit82
“According to the Bureau of Made-Up Statistics.” ROFL...good one.
This bunch are financial terrorists and these part time jobs are to manipulate the numbers while they crush the economy, it’s intentional...unbelievable fools...living in la la land thinking communism is better than capitalism.
The people like Ayers and Obama, who were given privilege through capitalism think out of their rear ends, as long as the money is coming in to them.
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:28:59 AM PST
by
Kackikat
To: SeekAndFind
To add to your analysis, we don’t know how many of these jobs were full time. Most were part-time, a result of Christmas seasonal hiring, as these are November numbers.
And let’s be frank—these numbers are statistically created—in other words, no one really knows if they are accurate or not.
In my view, the White Hut manipulates numbers unceasingly, and all I know is what I see out there—a GD depression.
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:29:05 AM PST
by
exit82
("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
To: Jim Robinson
And now free college. Is this great or what!!
To: exit82
Well we can get a glimpse of the NATURE of the job market from this -— the average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged at 34.6 hours in December.
The manufacturing workweek edged down by 0.1 hour to 41.0 hours, and factory overtime edged up by 0.1 hour to 3.6 hours. The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged up by 0.1 hour to 33.9 hours.
In December, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls decreased by 5 cents to $24.57, following an increase of 6 cents in November. Over the year, average hourly earnings have risen by 1.7 percent. In December, average hourly earnings of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees decreased by 6 cents to $20.68.
Thats a bit of a puzzle, and not a good one. Either the competition for jobs is still far too sharp to push wages up, or businesses are having to compensate for higher costs by delaying compensation increases.
According to the Household data, the US economy added an average of 231,000 jobs in 2014, well above the level needed to keep up with population growth but not exactly sufficient to make significant inroads into the ranks of the chronically unemployed. Those idled workers may be suppressing wage growth and making it difficult for workers to turn the market to their advantage. We will need higher levels of job creation to overcome that handicap, and so far we still are waiting for the real expansion in jobs to begin.
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:35:29 AM PST
by
SeekAndFind
(If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
To: SeekAndFind
Seek, the numbers are just that—numbers.
That the workweek went down by 0.1 hours is meaningless, and we don;t even know that the data that is based on is even accurate.
The numbers give trends, and the trends are interpreted differently.
Just watch CNBC, Fox Business, and Bloomberg West and see how differently people interpret the SAME numbers.
Like I said, the reality I see is that this is the worst economy in my working lifetime of 49 years, and the whole financial house is shaky at best.
An unemployment rate of 5.7% is ludicrous in the face of the economic dislocation going on out there across the country.
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:41:18 AM PST
by
exit82
("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
To: exit82
In a nutshell, heres how the BLS is counting the unemployed:
QUESTION: Are you employed?
Answer: No
QUESTION: Are you actively looking for a job?
Answer Yes.
Questioner counts the interviewee as among the unemployed.
Next....
QUESTION: Are you employed?
Answer: No
QUESTION: Are you actively looking for a job?
Answer No.
Questioner puts the interviewee in a different category and BLS DOES NOT include him in the official unemployment rate.
Regardless of what it is, if you dont have a job, you dont have a job, whether the BLS counts you or not.
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:43:42 AM PST
by
SeekAndFind
(If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
To: SeekAndFind
Precisely.
And there is no way of knowing if the respondents answers are real or not.
This Administration cooks the books on everything.
I don’t believe anything they say.
I have six years of data to back up that conclusion.
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posted on
01/09/2015 10:46:24 AM PST
by
exit82
("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
To: SeekAndFind
A majority of that 92.9 million are living off relatives or the government.
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posted on
01/09/2015 11:42:48 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
To: SeekAndFind
HOPEY...
Changey....
And all that bulls...
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posted on
01/09/2015 11:46:29 AM PST
by
tcrlaf
(They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
To: jsanders2001
Bump great mocking of Obamas unemployment #’s
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posted on
01/09/2015 7:44:44 PM PST
by
Luigi Vasellini
(End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The Obama Recession
to go with
The Obama Tax Hikes
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posted on
01/10/2015 5:42:47 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: SeekAndFind
Great charts... I am wondering if you have access to a chart similar to the last one but with data going back at least into the 1970’s.
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posted on
01/16/2015 6:12:05 AM PST
by
AFPhys
((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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