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TARGET Closing all stores in Canada
CBC ^ | 1.15.2015 | CBC Staff

Posted on 01/15/2015 6:18:02 AM PST by golux

Target says it plans to discontinue all operations in Canada and seek protection from creditors, less than two years after opening to much fanfare.

In a release early Thursday, the U.S. retail chain said it will close all its locations in Canada. There are 133 stores across the country with about 17,600 employees.

The company launched in Canada in the spring of 2013.

But after high expectations, the chain failed to deliver as customers faced higher-than-expected prices, and empty shelves as the retailer had problems with its distribution chain.

Executives repeatedly promised they would get it right, but ultimately decided to pull the plug.

"After a thorough review of our Canadian performance and careful consideration of the implications of all options, we were unable to find a realistic scenario that would get Target Canada to profitability until at least 2021," CEO Brian Cornell said in a release Thursday, explaining the justification for the shutdown.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada
KEYWORDS: canada; retail; target
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To: ctdonath2

I was under the impression that TArget had a financial interest in The Bay.

I was mistaken.


61 posted on 01/15/2015 8:46:15 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Seruzawa

“But a lot of them are smarmy arrogant dweebs who look down their collective moocher noses at us’

Canadians have lectured me about their wonderful national (really, provincial) health system while admitting they or family members have been occasional “medical tourists” to the US when they needed any procedure deemed to be elective or if the wait for surgery was going to be unacceptable.


62 posted on 01/15/2015 8:50:13 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Dr. Sivana

How long did she have you fooled? ;-)


63 posted on 01/15/2015 8:55:15 AM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: golux

It’s not Americans themselves we don’t like, it’s overbearing, rude, condescending, brash obnoxious boors we have some issues with.

We do some things a bit differently up here, and we are quite aware that “that’s not how we do it in the states”. There are reasons that things are done differently here, or in Appalachia, or California, or Maine, or Texas, or wherever: It’s called REGIONAL DIFFERENCES.

Our culture is different from yours in a few ways. We know this, and don’t care for our ways to be denigrated and insulted simply because it’s not the way ‘Merkinz’ do it.


64 posted on 01/15/2015 8:56:10 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: golux
A few things went wrong. (And no, Target wasn't and isn't anything like Zeller's, which was more of a "dollar store" environment.) First, Target never fully understood how Canadians would perceive a retail outlet whose in-store prices were drastically different from (US) online prices. (Canada is a BIG country and even without all the taxes and tariffs, it adds to the price of a widget when you have to truck it from China to [Los Angeles to] Montreal to Edmonton...) Second, Target never properly differentiated itself in the mind of the Canadian consumer from Wal-Mart. I am a professional marketer and was watching this very serious positioning problem from the beginning. Finally, frankly, Canadians do not like Americans and American things. They simply don't. They do not like you. Period. No matter what you think is going on, no matter about your "friend in Montreal," they do not like you. To be a Canadian is to not be an American. Frankly, all of this could have been avoided with a few more maple leaves plastered here and there, fewer loud, fruity Madison Avenue creatives, and an effort, like the Hudson's Bay Co. and others made, to hire men like me to help guide public perception.

I don't disagree with anything you've said. I just find it hard to understand how a company like Target could misjudge the Canadian market so badly. Target has been hugely successful in the U.S. market for decades, with thousands of stores and billions in sales, so it's not like they're some start-up business with little experience in retailing. You'd think they would have done sufficient due diligence before entering the Canadian market in order to avoid or minimize the obstacles you've identified in your narrative. This is no small misstep. Some senior management heads should roll over this epic failure.

65 posted on 01/15/2015 9:12:34 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: golux

Odd. I could’ve sworn I’d shopped in Target in Canada before 2013. From 2007-2012, I visited Canada just yearly.


66 posted on 01/15/2015 9:15:34 AM PST by dangus
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To: golux

It would be wonderful should they close all stores in the U. S. too!


67 posted on 01/15/2015 9:19:08 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Rinnwald

The good news is that they ARE invading! They bought out Burger King a few months ago (which the news reported as Burger King fleeing US taxes). They’re currently all over Michigan, Ohio, Maine, Western NY and Manhattan.


68 posted on 01/15/2015 9:21:43 AM PST by dangus
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To: Rinnwald

... with scattered locations in Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, and Pennsylvania. I think they’re smart to gradually march across the U.S.


69 posted on 01/15/2015 9:23:14 AM PST by dangus
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To: golux

With Target opening up just 2 yrs ago, it’s amazing that the financial projections would change so drastically in such a short period of time.

Makes you wonder if there was some over-riding agenda that started the program.

I know at GM, they bought Saab because a top executive had a love affair with a sensuous Swede. The business case made no sense.


70 posted on 01/15/2015 9:33:39 AM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: Don W

Don’t hold back /grin


71 posted on 01/15/2015 9:36:37 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Gen.Blather

verrrrrry interesting

folks here whine about everything at walmart being from China

did you by chance get a feeling for the global scope of Walmart vendors?


72 posted on 01/15/2015 9:42:27 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: golux

How insane is it that Target made such a HUGE gaffe? It’s not so much that they entered and failed but after only two years? I can’t imagine how bad it was to not even trying to see it through for at least 5-7 years. It’s just stunning.


73 posted on 01/15/2015 9:49:47 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: bert

“did you by chance get a feeling for the global scope of Walmart vendors?”

Actually, yes. Wal-Mart was compliant with several trade treaties that dictated they’d buy from tiny island nations. In many cases they were the only source of income. I had no idea there were several countries so small they’d make my home town look big. Wal-Mart was looking forward to dealing with suppliers who had more reliable shipping when the treaty lapsed. Some of these islands had a ship visit once every six months. By the time the products got to the stores they were out of style or obsolete. But, much of their stuff came from China. They were diversifying to newly developed outlets in other low cost producers.


74 posted on 01/15/2015 9:53:07 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: sheana

now that is interesting, real interesting

Walmart has taken on Amazon........ a battle of titans

Since Amazon is a loser, the profitable Walmart might be eating amazon’s lunch


75 posted on 01/15/2015 9:54:42 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Don W

Typical and predictable Canadian defensiveness, insecurity, presumptuousness, finger-pointing, and condescension. Thank you for telling me what ‘things are called,’ about the culture I know like the back of my hand and how worldly you are. I can continue this conversation in any of five languages including the french you probably despise. Can you?


76 posted on 01/15/2015 9:55:54 AM PST by golux
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To: golux

You merely proved my point, mon ammi. Va au diable, cochon.


77 posted on 01/15/2015 10:16:20 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Don W

TYPO: ami.


78 posted on 01/15/2015 10:16:58 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Don W
Yes, I noticed the misspelling. It's also archaic and awkward, aside from being an expression no French-Canadian and very few modern French would ever use. You might have gone with va te faire foutre, but that probably wasn't in your online translator. Anyway, you have my sympathy.
79 posted on 01/15/2015 11:04:40 AM PST by golux
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To: ltc8k6

That was part of the problem. Target didn’t just go into the market slowly like a lot of other retail I chains would have done. Instead, they bought out the leases on a bunch of Zellers locations for something like $1.8 billion. At that point they really had no choice but to get into the market quickly, since it didn’t make sense to leave all that space vacant.


80 posted on 01/15/2015 11:44:37 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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