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Papa John's Pizza stands by employee who shot armed robber in self defense
fox news ^ | January 15, 2015 | Cristina Corbin

Posted on 01/15/2015 2:47:30 PM PST by Mount Athos

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To: colorado tanker
"A husband and father murdered for a lousy pizza box."

A few years back in Louisiana, we had a seminary student who was delivering pizzas at night who was shot and killed :-(

61 posted on 01/15/2015 4:54:13 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: eyeamok
After reviewing this case, we have decided to Abolish the policy of Not Utilizing Firearms during the course of their duties and instead, We at Papa Johns are encouraging ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES to get Training and Concealed Weapons Permits. We will begin offering FREE Firearm Safety courses to all Franchisees and openly encourage our Stores to use their GOD GIVEN RIGHT to Defend themselves against these cockroaches.

Unfortunately, any person or business with deep pockets that gets involved in a self-defense shooting, no matter how clearly justifiable, is apt to get sued and risk having a jury sympathize with the victim. The most reliable way in today's legal climate for a company to avoid such a thing is for it to make clear that a employee who does anything with a firearm does so in violation of company policy, and thus cannot be construed in any way as having done so on the company's behalf.

The proper remedy would be to have a states amend their tort laws to shield companies from liability when their employees use firearms for personal defense during the course of their duties, while making companies which forbid weapons liable for the safety of their customers and employees while on the premises, or while en route to or from the nearest practical place where weapons can be stored. If e.g. a jewelry store wishes to require that customers check weapons and accept liability in the event that its guards are unable to protect customers from robbers, that should be its prerogative, but companies should be encouraged to minimize liability by simply allowing employees and customers to protect themselves.

62 posted on 01/15/2015 5:08:01 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Mount Athos

i bet if it was a guy they would have fired him.


63 posted on 01/15/2015 5:08:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mount Athos

Corporate culture takes a while to change. The best bet would be at first for the corporation to “not encourage the carrying of firearms, but leaving the policy in the hands of franchise owners and state laws.”

If phrased properly, this would soothe their lawyers’ fears of litigation, especially if the corporation could be legally insulated from their franchises.

Then, putting those lawyers to good use, have them prepare a draft agreement that their franchise owners could use when allowing their people to be armed on the job. Basically a policy statement that emphasizes the importance of the employees lives and health, while downplaying the idea of “defending the pizza (or the money) with your life”.


64 posted on 01/15/2015 5:15:38 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Mr. K

I’ll go slowly Mr. K.

Buy their pizza AFTER they abolish their ridiculous policy of prohibiting employees from using firearms in the course of their duties.

Big whip they didn’t fire her. They didn’t fire her because they all-of-a-sudden believe in the God-given right to defend oneself. They announced that they didn’t fire her because it was a marketing opportunity.

Buying Papa John’s pizza is like supporting the Taliban.


65 posted on 01/15/2015 5:16:52 PM PST by KingLudd
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To: KingLudd

I’ll go slowly too...

bite me ass hole

What the hell is going on at FR that no one can participate in an intelligent discussion without throwing in some smarmy put-down or insult

Is that slow enough for you DICKHEAD?


66 posted on 01/15/2015 5:21:03 PM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: Mount Athos

I knew of one tough guy pizza deliveryman who worked in a bad red zone, and expected to be robbed, so when carrying a pizza it would be resting atop his ‘drop gun’.

He figured that if somebody tried to rob him, he would plug them, then he would take their gun and wallet as recompense.


67 posted on 01/15/2015 5:24:47 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Mount Athos

Good news.


68 posted on 01/15/2015 5:41:06 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Mount Athos
Donquaz

Ubangi fo' "Affican Prince" no doubt.

No charges, she must have had a 40 point Buck stamp on her license....

69 posted on 01/15/2015 5:42:34 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Mount Athos

Papa John’s should announce all their delivery people are armed.....


70 posted on 01/15/2015 5:44:56 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

DQ should be eliminated.


71 posted on 01/15/2015 5:47:22 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly. Keeping your powder dry is often the wise thing to do until the dust finally settles.


72 posted on 01/15/2015 5:52:52 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: Osage Orange
Now there's the answer. Their policy is too much like the "gun free zone" of many establishments and institutions. Put all the thugs out there on notice that Papa Johns delivery people are not to be messed with. Lawyers be damned.

Great idea.

73 posted on 01/15/2015 5:56:26 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt
I happen to like PJ's pizza...but depends on who makes it..It seems.

Being a pizza connoisseur....I've almost come to the conclusion...I can update a frozen pizza to my liking.

I live in a pizza desert...

Might be another pizza thread in the making.....

I could at some Tulsa area places....

74 posted on 01/15/2015 6:03:23 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Veggie Todd

She hit him....didn’t kill him.


75 posted on 01/15/2015 6:05:35 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Dr. Ursus

They come up with the names after drinking a few 40’s, and they spell them as they slur them... *Hic*


76 posted on 01/15/2015 6:14:45 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Je suis Charlie!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Compared to what could be happening it’s paradise.

It's still crap. But you do have a point ... there's worse crap out there.

77 posted on 01/15/2015 6:22:07 PM PST by NorthMountain (No longer TEA Party ... I'm the TAF Party)
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Ghetto Name Generator
78 posted on 01/15/2015 6:25:42 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Osage Orange
I could add some pizza places here in Tulsa, OK...is what I meant to say!!

Anyone want to add..to this idea?

79 posted on 01/15/2015 6:34:36 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: colorado tanker
Nice to see the Pope worried about Global Warming rather than wasting time dealing with the evil in this world.

Maybe if that killer had a spiritual value or two he wouldn’t have killed the young working father. Then again fighting evil's not as much fun as being a rock star to liberal elites.

80 posted on 01/15/2015 7:21:55 PM PST by GOPJ (NYT "Free Speech" - ISIS can post severed heads to twitter but we can't post Mohammed cartoons.)
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