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(Virginia General Assembly) Article V Con Con Legislation Up TOMORROW! (Today, January 27th)
The Marshall Message | January 26, 2015 | Delegate Bob Marshall

Posted on 01/27/2015 8:27:31 AM PST by Perseverando

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To: itsahoot
The Levin video is worth your time as well.

<>Why not just ask the States to assert their Constitutional Rights?<>

Repeal the 17th Amendment and they will, once again. Repeal the 17th and we'll never have to worry about anti-10th amendment judges.

The only worthwhile amendments are structural, those that cannot be ignored any easier than even calendar year elections.

21 posted on 01/27/2015 10:50:38 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Kit cat

Because the founders did not envision that Senators and Presidents would be elected by popular vote... by women and slaves and other NON-STAKEHOLDERS.


22 posted on 01/27/2015 10:50:45 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Jacquerie

Can’t watch it now, maybe later.


23 posted on 01/27/2015 10:53:16 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: afsnco

Concon alarmism is afoot as usual.

This is a convention to PROPOSE amendments. 75% of the state’s legislatures would have to approve... if a convention can even put a consensus together in the first place.


24 posted on 01/27/2015 10:55:25 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: afsnco
Please identify a few clauses of the constitution that are respected by Rome-on-the-Potomac.

Using the term “concon” harms your credibility.

Rather than criticize something you obviously haven't researched, take the time to view Levin's video link in
post #14.

25 posted on 01/27/2015 10:58:32 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: blueyon

Delegate Bob Marshall is either critically misinformed, or has a stake in preserving the existing corrupt system.


26 posted on 01/27/2015 11:00:43 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Rodamala

If 75% of the state legislatures, or conventions of the people can agree to any amendment, it rightly should become part of our constitution.

While the term “republic” is mouthed at FR, it is often forgotten that it means the people are sovereign.


27 posted on 01/27/2015 11:05:34 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Boogieman

Yada Yada Yada.

See the video and then we’ll talk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZuV8JnvvA


28 posted on 01/27/2015 11:13:57 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Jacquerie

“... or has a stake in preserving the existing corrupt system.”

Exactly. There is no proposal for a “con con” so anyone raising that specter is misstating the proposed actions. There are many people who stand to lose some power if the states and citizens regain some of their power. Mark Levin initiated this effort and is the defining authority on the subject.


29 posted on 01/27/2015 11:17:11 AM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Jacquerie; Boogieman

He’s got time to push his ‘concon’ scarecrow act but he doesn’t have 30 minutes to watch Levin tear into disinformation smear jobs like his.

He won’t watch it because he can’t argue against sound logical reasoning.


30 posted on 01/27/2015 11:17:31 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 5thGenTexan; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; Art in Idaho; Arthur Wildfire! March; Arthur McGowan; ...

Ping.


31 posted on 01/27/2015 12:07:17 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Hostage

You don’t understand that some people have jobs and can’t sit around watching videos during the day?

Weren’t you the guy railing against people not having enough experience in the real world? What a laugh! Don’t think I will bother watching the video now, if someone with your winning personality is promoting it.


32 posted on 01/27/2015 12:18:23 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Lunchtime has passed and you’re still on the thread ranting and making excuses.

It’s clear now what you’re about.

Bye Bye!


33 posted on 01/27/2015 12:21:33 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Yeah, keep up the great sales tactics buddy, you are sure winning them over there.


34 posted on 01/27/2015 12:27:44 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Hostage
Watch the Levin video then we’ll talk:

I listen to Levin's Podcast regularly I just don't agree that making more laws that can be ignored is the answer, it may help, it may not. I am no opposed to it, in fact I am generally in favor of the goals, I just don't think outlaws care what the Constitution says. We need a new Sheriff to take down the Old Crooked Sheriff, who will then become the New Crooked Sheriff, can't you see that?[:-)

35 posted on 01/27/2015 1:38:36 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. $.98-$.89<$.10)
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To: itsahoot
On Levin's homepage, Chapter 1 of his Liberty Amendments is available.
36 posted on 01/27/2015 2:14:10 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: itsahoot

There is already a ‘new Sheriff’ in waiting and it is comprised of 7,398 state legislators.

Here’s what they need to propose as an amendment to the Constitution:

To redress the balance of powers between the federal government and the States and to restore effective suffrage of State Legislatures to Congress, the following amendment is proposed:

AMENDMENT XXVIII

Section 1.
A Senator in Congress shall be subject to recall by their respective state legislature or by voter referendum in their respective state.

Section 2.
Upon a majority vote in two-thirds of state legislatures, federal statutes and federal court decisions shall be overridden.

Section 3.
Term limits for Senators in Congress shall be set by vote in their respective state legislatures but in no case shall be set less than twelve years.
________________________________________

Now if Section 1 is replaced with a repeal of the 17th Amendment, then that’s even better but it may be a hard sale. Recalling US Senators gets the job done for state legislatures.

With the above amendment, there would be no Obamacare, no same-sex marriage nonsense and so on.


37 posted on 01/27/2015 2:22:02 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

But But But... “more laws will never make a difference” & “It’s just another amendment for them to ignore”...

This is a STRUCTURAL change to the constitution. It can NOT be ignored... That’s what the “con con” crowd doesn’t understand...

And anything out of the Article V Convention for the proposal of Amendments would have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states...

Read my tagline... Reality is regaining control of Fedzilla...


38 posted on 01/27/2015 5:51:00 PM PST by bfh333 ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: Perseverando

A couple of points. The convention of states proposes amendments to the constitution. The proposed amendments must be ratified by the states in the same manner an amendment proposed by congress must be ratified by the states. So what is the difference? The convention of states bypasses Congress. That is it. Not scary at all. The next argument is essentially why bother the government won’t follow the amendments anyway. The purpose of the convention of states is to propose amendments to restore the power of the states relative to the federal government. Indeed to provide the states legal ability to reign in the federal government. I believe the repeal of the 17th amendment is a perfect place to start and few would argue against that. So let’s call the convention of states, propose the repeal of the 17th amendment, issue it to the state legislatures for ratification and adjourn the convention. We can then call the next convention after the states iron out any problems found with the first use of Article V.


39 posted on 01/27/2015 6:50:27 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Perseverando
It is time for the people of Virginia to unseat Bob Marshall. Those who do not understand the Constitution and do not understand the amendment process should not be representing the people of any township, county, district or state.
40 posted on 01/27/2015 7:15:37 PM PST by GILTN1stborn ( #rememberbenghazi #extortion17 #impeachobama)
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