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Why Are Jews Liberals
Wall Street Journal (WsJ.com) ^ | September 10, 2009 | Norman Podhoretz

Posted on 02/02/2015 8:26:07 AM PST by Reverend Saltine

These numbers remind us of the extent to which the continued Jewish commitment to the Democratic Party has become an anomaly. All the other ethno-religious groups that, like the Jews, formed part of the coalition forged by Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the 1930s have followed the rule that increasing prosperity generally leads to an increasing identification with the Republican Party. But not the Jews. As the late Jewish scholar Milton Himmelfarb said in the 1950s: "Jews earn like Episcopalians"—then the most prosperous minority group in America—"and vote like Puerto Ricans," who were then the poorest.

Jews also remain far more heavily committed to the liberal agenda than any of their old ethno-religious New Deal partners. As the eminent sociologist Nathan Glazer has put it, "whatever the promptings of their economic interests," Jews have consistently supported "increased government spending, expanded benefits to the poor and lower classes, greater regulations on business, and the power of organized labor."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: jewsdemocrat; jewsliberal; liberaljews; marvelcomics; stanlee
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To: OldNukeDaddy

This is a political forum, how do we not discuss how groups vote?

Why do you call conservatives and politics hate?


61 posted on 02/02/2015 11:21:00 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: petro45acp; GrandJediMasterYoda
“I guess Jews are liberal for the same reason blacks vote Democrat: Stockholm syndrome.”

This is as wrong as Medved's attempts to cover for the Jewish vote, blacks used to be republicans, and they switched in a single election to the democrat party, the instant and permanent switch was made in 1936.

Jews have never been republican, or conservative, they are not captives, they are well represented among the leaders and members and even the intellectual creators of the left and it's movements and organizations.

62 posted on 02/02/2015 11:26:35 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12
This is a political forum, how do we not discuss how groups vote? Why do you call conservatives and politics hate?

There seems be an obsession with Jews and their every action. I have rarely seen discussion of how Methodists vote or Episcopalians or Buddhists. But there is a daily focus on this tiny fraction of the population (2% or so). I am constantly bombarded with the news that most Jews are liberals. OK, I get it. They are. But why the mania about it?

63 posted on 02/02/2015 11:28:40 AM PST by Blennos
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Just like Christian denominations, most “Jews” are only genetically Jewish, they are not faithful, or as many of my Jewish friends tell me; “We are not practicing Jews.” Too many “Christians” are not practicing Christians either. In plainer words, both non-practicing Jews, and Christians in name only, are not followers of God, thus they are secular humanists practicing moral relativism, so they vote opposite of Godly morality.

Yet when the totals for everyone that says they are Christian and not Catholic (Protestant), are all added up, the majority of the Protestant Christian vote, always goes Republican, except in 1932, barely, and in 1936, and 1964 in the assassination tidal wave.

64 posted on 02/02/2015 11:30:34 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Blennos

LOL, no there isn’t an obsession with the Jewish vote, it gets discussed sometimes like the Evangelical vote, the Catholic vote, the black vote, the women’s vote, the Hispanic vote, the Mormon vote, the Cuban vote, the millennial vote, the over 65 vote, etc, etc, etc.


65 posted on 02/02/2015 11:36:34 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: PrairieLady2
Wow! Talk about painting a group of people with a broad brush!

DITTO!

I don’t recall my ballot asking my race, or religion, did yours?

DITTO!

I don’t recall answering any of those types of questions when I registered to vote, did you?

DITTO!

So how does the author derive a figure of 57% of Jewish voters as voting for Obama without noting that 43% did not?

DITTO!

Why doesn’t he cite figures for Jewish registered voters who didn’t vote at all?

DITTO!

The fact of the matter is, he has NO way of knowing any of the information he spouts off.

DITTO!

Furthermore, if the article’s author had even an inkling of Jewish history, he’d be able to answer his own question of why some Jews are liberals, but he’d also ask why some Blacks and Hispanics, Asians, Indians, Irish, French, German etc. are conservative.

DITTO!

What I see is a poorly written hit piece, devoid of truth.

All of the projection is disturbing to read amongst many of the posters. Maybe these enlightened theoreticians on all things political with the Jewish people should poll the members here. I think they would be uncomfortable with the overrepresentation of FR posters within this very tiny religious minority group.
66 posted on 02/02/2015 11:49:27 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Jewbacca
Jewish people are slowly (too slowly) trending conservative. I often wonder if stupid threads like this are posted by trolls (or used by trolls) to keep Jews on the Democrat Plantation by bringing out all the cretins.

Yep. Check out some of the posting history and born on dates. The Delphi Technique is alive and well here.
67 posted on 02/02/2015 11:52:55 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: ansel12

“...the majority of the Protestant Christian vote...”

but by what margin? 57% is lame. Evangelicals 79%, still 21% or so evangelicals voted for a pro-abortion, pro-gun control communist/atheist/muslim.

No Christian would vote pro-abortion. It is a first issue elimination checkoff.


68 posted on 02/02/2015 11:57:02 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy. Cruz, that is. Texas conservative.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

Lame compared to what, 100% human perfection?

Why do you think that JFK devoted his political life to replacing them through immigration?


69 posted on 02/02/2015 12:07:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: PA Engineer

Perhaps as we study and discuss voting data on this conservative political activist site, we can find a way to exclude the Jewish vote from any mention, treat it as off limits for public knowledge.

Why would it bother a conservative to discuss liberal groups and their voting?


70 posted on 02/02/2015 12:12:35 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12
Why would it bother a conservative to discuss liberal groups and their voting?

Why are we discussing an article from 2009 again. Seems very obsessive to me.
71 posted on 02/02/2015 12:17:03 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

Nothing has changed, and elections keep coming up.


72 posted on 02/02/2015 12:19:19 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: driftless2
However, the Democrats of your parents' generation are VERY different than the Democrats of 2014. By early 1960's standards for Democrats, they would almost be considered Republicans by 2014 standards.
73 posted on 02/02/2015 12:20:57 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ansel12

“here isn’t an obsession with the Jewish vote”

Baloney, an easy plurality of your posts are anti-Israel or anti-Jewish and are the same, tired, “Jews are so stupid” posts.

You’re either the OP on such threads or an eager poster.


74 posted on 02/02/2015 12:24:51 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: PA Engineer

“The Delphi Technique is alive and well here.”

I learned something new today.

I just “felt” there were professional serial posters during key events -— they tended to disappear and reappear during elections, but had no idea that it was purposeful.

Had no idea the technique had a name, either:

http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/1998/nov98/focus.html


75 posted on 02/02/2015 12:29:58 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

LOL, I’ve never made such posts, not about Jews, nor Israel.

Nor have I ever posted a thread on Israel, and only one that involved anything Jewish, and that was about the U.S. Army and a leftist’s false accusation that had nothing to do with Jews, except for the ADL.

You on the other hand are known as a liar, as can be seen from that post, you aren’t even American are you?


76 posted on 02/02/2015 12:33:13 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Jewbacca
Baloney

Absolutely spot on. I could not agree with you more. Taking it from another perspective, why are there so many Christian and Catholic liberals? It's a complex answer that involves cultural assumptions, willingness (or lack of) to take alternative views seriously and educational experiences.

77 posted on 02/02/2015 12:38:50 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: MrB; neocon1984
Pretty simple really - rejection of Christianity.

True, as evidenced by the Jewish revulsion at Evangelical Christians, a dislike which is even higher than the Jewish dislike of Muslims.

78 posted on 02/02/2015 12:52:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12
You on the other hand are known as a liar, as can be seen from that post, you aren’t even American are you?

Jewbacca is not a known liar, but you have become very defensive. Why are you involved in the continued reposting of old articles that disparage Jews? Do you desire that Free Republic be Judenfrei?
79 posted on 02/02/2015 1:04:22 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

Another weird and creepy post, and a bizarre lie.

How off center and delusional you must be to want to pretend that I am involved in posting old articles disparaging Jews, since that has never happened, ever.

The conspiracy if one exists, seems to be you trying to block conservatives discussing the voting and politics of liberal groups, why would you do that?


80 posted on 02/02/2015 1:13:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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