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Why Are Jews Liberals
Wall Street Journal (WsJ.com) ^ | September 10, 2009 | Norman Podhoretz

Posted on 02/02/2015 8:26:07 AM PST by Reverend Saltine

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To: Reverend Saltine
I'd forget about the non-Orthodox Jewish vote altogether. Their communal organizations are "leadership" are fraudulent. The true official Jewish leadership lies with the Torah Sages. I'd concentrate on them and their followers and just be satisfied with that.

I'm not so sure Jews are so "alone" in maintaining the old New Deal coalition. Many other groups (Catholics, urban ethnics, union members, Blacks) are just as Democrat as ever.

The article defines liberalism primarily by economic positions. I would define it by moral/social positions. Decent people may disagree about economic policies, but not on the baseline standards of G-d for being civilized human beings.

81 posted on 02/02/2015 1:16:24 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: ansel12
Mr. Delphi. Yes you.

Did you check the date of the article. You took it to heart to begin the flaming. Does Judenrein make you feel less creepy?

I have read your posts over the years and have found them very confusing. Sometimes you seem as a supporter of conservative principals and other times an operative. It must just be that Jewish conspiracy that finds it odd?

You are no friend of the Jews.
82 posted on 02/02/2015 1:21:37 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

First there is no flaming, except from you.

Your posts seem to be all personal attacks with a lot of lying involved to make them.

Your sole purpose seems to be you trying to block conservatives discussing the voting and politics of liberal groups, why would you do that?

Or is it just one liberal groups voting, I don’t recall you being this rabid and obsessed and nasty and dishonest with threads involving voting from any other liberal group.


83 posted on 02/02/2015 1:26:51 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12
Or is it just one liberal groups voting, I don’t recall you being this rabid and obsessed and nasty and dishonest with threads involving voting from any other liberal group.

You would know Mr. Delphi. You were the agitator on all those threads. Let me see...because I'm Jewish makes me clannish? Wow. Where have I heard that old canard before?

You can have your last word now. Your type always does.
84 posted on 02/02/2015 1:32:13 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

My type, interesting, no wonder you have been anything but conservative on this thread.


85 posted on 02/02/2015 1:36:07 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

OK is THIS of interest? :)


86 posted on 02/02/2015 1:44:03 PM PST by Borges
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To: MrB

As an example.

“Most liberal Jews view the Christian right as wanting to impose a Christian America on them,” said Marshall Breger, professor at the Catholic University of America’s Columbus School of Law and leading voice on inter-religious relations. “To the extent to which the bulk of Jews are liberal, both politically and culturally, they’ll have negative views of the Christian right.”

And here is the kicker that should concern ALL conservatives.

“The survey, conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute and published April 3 [2012], asked Jewish respondents to rate the favorability of several religious groups. Mormons received a 47% favorability rating, Muslims 41.4%; the group described as “Christian Right” was viewed in favorable terms by only 20.9% of Jewish Americans.”


87 posted on 02/02/2015 1:54:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12

I’ve certainly gotten some interesting responses.


88 posted on 02/02/2015 2:31:15 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PrairieLady2; PA Engineer
So how does the author derive a figure of 57% of Jewish voters as voting for Obama without noting that 43% did not?

DITTO!

It's 78%, not 57%. The first sentence:
One of the most extraordinary features of Barack Obama's victory over John McCain was his capture of 78% of the Jewish vote.

89 posted on 02/02/2015 2:34:27 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: MrB

I think post 87 nails it.

The more Christian, the more Jews despise it, they approve of Mohammedans over devoted Christians.


90 posted on 02/02/2015 2:37:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: PrairieLady2; EveningStar
So how does the author derive a figure of 57% of Jewish voters as voting for Obama without noting that 43% did not?

Related to the correction you recieved in post 89, you would have to go back to 1920 to see a republican getting 43% of the Jewish vote.

In 1920 Harding got 43% of the Jewish vote and Eugene Debs of the Socialist party received 38% of the Jewish vote, the democrats got the rest of it.

91 posted on 02/02/2015 2:44:52 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: SJackson; Hildy; ken5050; Yaelle

ping


92 posted on 02/02/2015 2:48:38 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: ansel12

“LOL, I’ve never made such posts, not about Jews, nor Israel.”

Quick Boolian search of your name and “Jew”, just the random top 10. It’s basically the same line over-and-over:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3224127/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3031801/posts?q=1&;page=1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2318252/posts

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3244849/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3158259/posts

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3228498/posts

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3224644/posts


93 posted on 02/02/2015 3:05:10 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca
an easy plurality of your posts are anti-Israel or anti-Jewish and are the same, tired, “Jews are so stupid” posts. You’re either the OP on such threads or an eager poster.

And you are still a liar.

Of course I post on threads that involve politics, even if like this thread, it involves the Jewish vote.

You aren't even an American are you? Yet here you are making these dishonest claims and trying to prevent this conservative political site from discussing voting by liberal groups, why are you doing that?

94 posted on 02/02/2015 3:21:25 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12

Really? Google yourself.

Basically every Jewish or Israeli-related thread is the same crap posted by you. I just posted the first screen.

In fairness, your anti-Catholic posts probably outnumber your anti-Jewish posts (although you do tend to mix the two).

Your anti-Mormon posts are just confusing and apparently deal with your fetish for wanting multiple wives.

++++++

Not sure how my citizenship is relevant, but as I look at my US Passport, sitting here at a US Airbase where I just spent 8 hours training American pilots, I realize you are a complete idiot, as well as an anti-Semite.


95 posted on 02/02/2015 3:42:00 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: RayChuang88
I used to go over with my parents all the ways Dems have gone socialist for the last forty-fifty years and against most of values they held dear.

Nope, nope, Republicans are for the rich, and Dems are for the common man. Dems care about people. I just couldn't make them see what they were voting for the last forty years. They never got over The Great Depression and FDR "saving" the country.

96 posted on 02/02/2015 3:49:33 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Jewbacca

Google myself to read my posts on this thread for instance, which one is anti-Jewish?

You on the other hand are raving in defense of liberal voting, and your very first post on this thread is an attack, not on liberals, or democrats, but on the two republicans most identified with Christianity, a Catholic and a Protestant.

The bottom line is that your anti-Evangelical hatred comes through, and I would like you to point out anything anti-Jewish that I have posted on this thread, as you try to use that lie to end discussion of a liberal voting group. Why are you doing that?

You are born and raised in Israel, when did you become an American citizen?

Why would your attacks on this thread be directed at Christianity and conservatism, and why would you be so frantic and angry about us talking about liberal voters?


97 posted on 02/02/2015 4:04:12 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Jewbacca

I think post 87 explains your raging at this thread’s topic and your views on religion.

“The survey, conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute and published April 3 [2012], asked Jewish respondents to rate the favorability of several religious groups. Mormons received a 47% favorability rating, Muslims 41.4%; the group described as “Christian Right” was viewed in favorable terms by only 20.9% of Jewish Americans.”


98 posted on 02/02/2015 4:08:39 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12

I could not disagree with your generalizations more.

I am Lutheran, but grew up in a Jewish urban neighborhood. My childhood friends were either Jewish, Catholic or Lutheran. My field has a large Jewish presence. I probably understand the cultural mindset of (largely secular) urban Jews than you.

Jews do not reject Christianity. They only think about it when people try to proselytize. It reminds those of us with a historical sense of the Inquisition.

I am sure you are a good person, but if I were Jewish, I would be deeply offended by your comments.


99 posted on 02/02/2015 4:15:24 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Typical... something happens that you don’t like and it’s la la la la I can’t hear you.

Call them the Quorgians or what have you, they are a formidable voting force in the land.

As for highly religious Jews they already tend to go along with Republicans. Why barnstorm them for what they are doing now.


100 posted on 02/02/2015 4:16:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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