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Only a Muslim, like Obama, would blame American Christians for the Crusades
vanity | 02/07/2015 | Self

Posted on 02/07/2015 7:12:00 AM PST by CptnObvious

Only a Muslim, like Obama, would blame American Christians for the Crusades at a prayer breakfast for all faiths.

“And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.”

Think about it, who would blame Christians at a peaceful American prayer breakfast for the Inquisition done in Spain? Who would denigrate Americans for the European Crusades into the Holy Lands? Who would want to take down American Christians down a notch and why at such a peaceful event?

President Obama's aside, that he tried to cover up, "my Muslim faith" when George Stephanopoulos corrected him "Christian Faith" was more than telling. Was this a foretelling of things to come? Certainly.

Who but a Muslim would not join world leaders (or send diplomats already in France) to protest the Terrorist slaughter there and yet go personally to Saudia Arabia instead?

Why did he bow to the King of Saudi Arabia when he was first elected (violating Presidential protocol)?

Could he be secretly feeding information to his allies in the Muslim world?

Does he secretly hope to implement Sharia Law here in America? Does he condone Honor Killings and female genital mutilation? Is he withholding troops from saving Iraq from ISIL (a former ally)?

Inquiring minds want to know, but somehow in this the mainstream press does not.


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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I never dreamed that things would get this surreal.

the great leader on his coin operated horse MUST GO NOW






41 posted on 02/07/2015 8:22:15 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: broken_arrow1

“hordes” not “hoards”


42 posted on 02/07/2015 8:22:35 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim ("Your apathy is their power." - Sarah Palin Jul 19, 2014)
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To: fivecatsandadog
"Born and raised muslim, defender and loyalist of islam, wearer of an islamic ring"

I wish Congress would subpoena that so-called "Birth Certificate" and subject it to a group of recognized forgery analysts.

I am convinced it's a fake, just like Obama.

43 posted on 02/07/2015 8:25:52 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim ("Your apathy is their power." - Sarah Palin Jul 19, 2014)
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To: CptnObvious

Here’s a Muslim, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, speaking out on it ...
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/obamas-prayer-speech—more-harm-than-good—395046979770


44 posted on 02/07/2015 8:28:47 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: CptnObvious

Barack The Muzzy thinks Jim Crow was done by Christians? No, jerk, it was done by Democrats who didn’t like blacks to vote.


45 posted on 02/07/2015 8:36:49 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: fish hawk

Don’t forget that while FDR closed doors of U.S. to the Jews trying to flee from occupied Europe, by order of S.S. Pope Pius XII Catholic convents, schools, monasteries and even the Vatican, hide the Jews savings the live of almost one million Jews... There are at least 4 to 5 million descendants of those 860,000 Jews around the world whose lives were saved by Pius XII and the Catholic Church.

Also, another Catholic, the Spanish dictator, Francisco Franco, declared Spanish citizens the Sephardic Jews descendants of the Jews expelled from Spain in 1492 giving them refuge, in spite that the country was devastated by a bloody civil war, and saving the lives of more than 60,000 Jews.

On February 28, 1945, the Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem, Isaac Herzog, sent a letter of gratitude to the
Apostolic Nuncio in Rumania, Msgr. Andrea Cassulo, stating that: “The people of Israel will never forget what His Holiness and his illustrious delegates, inspired by the eternal principles of religion which form the very foundations of civilization, are doing for us unfortunate brothers and sisters in the most tragic hour of our history, which is living prove of divine Providence in this world.”

To those seeking the truth, what a better witness than the testimony of Albert Einstein, the great Jewish physicist, who had first hand experience of the horrors of Nazism? In 1944 he said: “Being a lover of freedom, when the Nazi revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, but the universities were immediately silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of newspapers, but they, like the universities were silenced in a few short weeks. Then I looked to individual writers…they too were mute. Only the Church,” Einstein concluded, “stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing the truth…I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel great affection and admiration…and am forced thus to confess that what I once despised, I now praise unreservedly.”(


46 posted on 02/07/2015 8:48:19 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: CptnObvious

OBAMA TRY TO IGNORE AND TO COVER UP THE SLAUGHTER OF CHRISTIANS COMMITED BY MUSLIMS, NOW, NOT 700 YEARS AGO.

ISIS militants selling, crucifying, burying children alive in Iraq, says UN watchdog
STRAITS TIMES FEB 5, 2015

HTTP://WWW.STRAITSTIMES.COM/NEWS/WORLD/EUROPE/STORY/ISIS-MILITANTS-SELLING-CRUCIFYING-BURYING-CHILDREN-ALIVE-IRAQ-SAYS-UN-WATCHD

GENEVA (REUTERS) - Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militants are selling abducted Iraqi children at markets as sex slaves, and killing other youths, including by crucifixion or burying them alive, a United Nations watchdog said on Wednesday. Iraqi boys aged under 18 are increasingly being used by the militant group as suicide bombers, bomb makers, informants or human shields to protect facilities against US-led air strikes, the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child said.

“We are really deeply concerned at torture and murder of those children, especially those belonging to minorities, but not only from minorities,” committee expert Renate Winter told a news briefing. “The scope of the problem is huge.” Children from the Yazidi sect or Christian communities, but also Shi’ites and Sunnis, have been victims, she said.

“We have had reports of children, especially children who are mentally challenged, who have been used as suicide bombers, most probably without them even understanding,” Winter told Reuters. “There was a video placed (online) that showed children at a very young age, approximately eight years of age and younger, to be trained already to become child soldiers.”

Islamic State is a breakaway Al-Qaeda group that declared an Islamic caliphate across parts of Syria and Iraq last summer. It has killed thousands and forced hundreds of thousands from their homes, in what the United Nations has called a reign of terror. On Tuesday, the group, which is also known as ISIL, released a video showing a captured Jordanian pilot being burned alive.

The UN body, which reviewed Iraq’s record for the first time since 1998, denounced “the systematic killing of children belonging to religious and ethnic minorities by the so-called ISIL, including several cases of mass executions of boys, as well as reports of beheadings, crucifixions of children and burying children alive”.

A large number of children have been killed or badly wounded during air strikes or shelling by Iraqi security forces, while others had died of “dehydration, starvation and heat”, it said. ISIL has committed “systematic sexual violence”, including “the abduction and sexual enslavement of children”, it said.

“Children of minorities have been captured in many places... sold in the market place with tags, price tags on them, they have been sold as slaves,” Winter said, giving no details. The 18 independent experts who worked on the report called on Iraqi authorities to take all necessary measures to “rescue children” under the control of Islamic State and to prosecute perpetrators of crimes. “

There is a duty of a state to protect all its children. The point is just how are they going to do that in such a situation?”, Winter said. –


47 posted on 02/07/2015 8:58:27 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: bubman

You don’t recognize sarcasm without the tag?


48 posted on 02/07/2015 9:05:50 AM PST by anoldafvet (We need a National Conservative Party for 2016.)
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To: anoldafvet

Sorry I thought I was responding to fish hawk but yeah I kind of figured.


49 posted on 02/07/2015 9:26:09 AM PST by bubman
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To: CptnObvious

Only a Muslim, like Obama, would blame American Christians for the Crusades at a prayer breakfast for all faiths.

Most people know of the Crusades and have an idea that they are an example of Christian aggression but know nothing of the ACTUAL reason the Crusades came about.


50 posted on 02/07/2015 9:33:16 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job..)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“Almost all of the atrocities committed by any Bible-based religion were done by catholics”.............


Tell that to John Fisher, Thomas More, Edmund Campion, etc. The hunting down of priests in England and Ireland was what caused ‘priestholes’ to be built into the walls of castles and mansions. Catholics in Ireland were not exactly treated nicely by the ruling classes of England and neither were the Catholic priests, monasteries, etc. during the “May Laws” under Otto von Bismarck.

This thread is about the current Islamic crazies who are hell-bent on conquering the world for their faux-god, Allah. It does no one any good to throw out such incendiary charges when there were plenty of guilty parties, and many more who were not guilty - on both sides.


51 posted on 02/07/2015 12:11:59 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Graybeard58

All we need to know is that Christ never Killed or hurt anyone, but the founder of a certain murderous cult.....


52 posted on 02/07/2015 2:58:18 PM PST by ABN 505 (-)
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To: fish hawk
Make your proof.

Nothing, eh? I didn't think so.

53 posted on 02/08/2015 9:15:08 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

dig up the documentary Nazi Hunters. It’s all right there but then what good is proof for a sheeple. Not only that but this is also on tape for all to see. Your POPE just stated that you don’t have to be a Christian to get to heaven. I suppose that is true if one gives enough money. (sarcasm)


54 posted on 02/09/2015 5:13:53 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: fish hawk
First, he's not my Pope. I'm an OT believer. Second, a TV show? Why don't you just detail your proof. If I'd made such an accusation, I know I would.
55 posted on 02/09/2015 5:26:39 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

I’m not going to do your homework for you. just google it up and do something for yourself. A documentary, look it up is not a TV movie. It is research put on film. You really are a sheep and are not really interested in this or you would go look it up to prove me wrong.


56 posted on 02/10/2015 10:37:04 AM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: onedoug

I just googles Redcross and Catholic church help Nazis. go there and read if you have the guts


57 posted on 02/10/2015 10:41:05 AM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: fish hawk

Alright. I’ll do what you say. Though insulting me dose not serve your purpose well.

I’ll get back to you.


58 posted on 02/10/2015 11:31:57 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

sorry about the insult BUT when ever I deal with Catholics you could show them the Pope was the antichrist on paper and they would argue he is the vicar of Christ so that can’t be. In other words like talking to a wall.
very few will actually look it up and admit they were wrong.


59 posted on 02/10/2015 2:09:21 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: fish hawk

First, “Nazi Hunters”. While I did not watch the entire 6 part series in its entirety, I was careful to search through it in small segments. I saw nothing to back your claim that the Vatican aided post-war nazis escape from Germany. Plus, the fact that it was French made would tend to undermine rather than enhance its credibility overall. (Although some of the footage was admittedly interesting.)

Even if this were true of a few individual priests - a similar degree of un-control which we see even today - that would hardly qualify as a blanket indictment specifically of the Vatican, either then or now (although Francis seems a lot more goosey-loosey than Pius ever did, IMHO).

Second, The Guardian article. While there are references to the Vatican throughout, they are nonetheless vague and in fact appear merely figuratively, with no specific evidence to the effect you mentioned presented.

That the Guardian has had numerous accusations of antisemitism leveled against it over the years, with many of those coming from its own staffers, would not exactly seem to make it the most credible source with stories and articles relating to Jews...or Catholics for that matter.

I also looked at Wikipedia, and a number of references related to nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, again with nothing to substantiate your claims.

Pope Pius wasn’t perfect, as none of us are. However, it seems his office did more to aid Jews during WWII than nearly any other institution through to the end of the conflict, personally hiding up to nearly 500 Italian Jews in the Vatican itself during the conflict with another 4000+ scattered around in various monasteries and convents. Also from the information I perused, Pius tried to dissuade Mussolini from any alignment with Hitler.

Thus, the bear bones of my case are laid out, as I believe yours should have been from the beginning. Whether you agree with it or not is up to you. But at least I’ve tried to detail it somewhat rather than sending you off to a bunch of websites, and admonishing you with the notion that, “I’m not going to do your homework for you”, after making such an unsupportable claim.

Sheesh!


60 posted on 02/10/2015 7:40:47 PM PST by onedoug
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