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Vancouver Tim Hortons sorry about soaking of homeless man
Toronto Sun ^ | February 8, 2015 | QMI AGENCY

Posted on 02/08/2015 7:20:53 PM PST by rickmichaels

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To: yldstrk

We know a couple whose one time “baby boy” is homeless. He is mentally ill but there is no facility that can make him stay because he is not a danger to himself or others. Every few months his parents scoop him up off the streets, take him home, clean him up, bath, haircut, new clothes, feed him and try to get him to stay and get help, but he always takes off again. There is nothing they can do to make him stay. Social workers and attorneys have told them that he is over 18 so free to make his own choices.

His parents and siblings are heart sick, constantly worrying where he is, is he OK and they fear they will one day receive a call telling them he is dead.


41 posted on 02/08/2015 9:06:50 PM PST by kalee
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To: kalee

I know. I hate it when people are nasty to the mentally ill.


42 posted on 02/08/2015 9:10:48 PM PST by yldstrk
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Read my 41. I forgot to mention his parents used to have an arrangement with a local restaurant. He would go there occasionally to buy a cup of coffee when hle had money. When his parents heard about that, they asked the restaurant to give him coffee and a sandwich every day and to bill them weekly. If the restaurant did not see him for a few days they were asked to call his parents. His family tries, but their hands are tied legally.


43 posted on 02/08/2015 9:13:16 PM PST by kalee
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To: ansel12

I totally agree with you.


44 posted on 02/08/2015 9:13:27 PM PST by yldstrk
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To: re_nortex

I used to do volunteer work/ fund raising for a women’s shelter. The question was often asked why there was not a comparable men’s shelter in the area. The response was that men were more difficult especially if they were substance abusers. The men were fighters with staff and elach other.


45 posted on 02/08/2015 9:18:43 PM PST by kalee
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To: rickmichaels

Hopefully it wasn’t too cold a night in Vancouver - the Horton’s manager could have called the police if the homeless guy was breaking laws or bothering customers.


46 posted on 02/08/2015 9:21:46 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Bums Inc.


47 posted on 02/08/2015 9:41:37 PM PST by onedoug
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To: re_nortex
Rush Limbaugh has pointed out that homeless are scammers, grifters, looters and ne'er-do-wells.

Some are simply ordinary people who have fallen on hard times. It happened to a person I knew, and he was none of those things.

I think the rights of private property trump all else in this case and the manager of the Tim Hortons store was defending property against encroachment by a shiftless bum.

The article says the homeless person was outside the eatery, presumably on the sidewalk to ask customers for change, or if they could buy him something inside. I never give change, but if a hungry looking person outside a fast food joint like Horton's asks me, I'll try to buy them some hot food. If the homeless guy was harassing people or breaking property rights, the police should have been called.
48 posted on 02/08/2015 9:44:43 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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...the Horton’s manager could have called the police if the homeless guy was breaking laws or bothering customers.

I don't know about Canada, but in the US there is almost nothing the police can do.

Essentially the bum is entitled to sleep on the sidewalk with his dog, right outside your front door, encouraging your customers to go to a competitor. A few weeks of this and you are out of business, losing the franchise fee you paid to open it up. At least a couple hundred grand.

I suspect there is a background story where the bum had been sleeping there long enough that the manager knew he was losing business, and no amount of talking could persuade him to go somewhere else.

Personally, I would have given the bum $10 or $20 a night to sleep in front of a competitor, and to keep the path in front of my place clear. But, I can see how the resentment about this guy killing your business and your livelihood building up.

49 posted on 02/08/2015 9:58:12 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: yldstrk
"The thing that kills me is that each of these people was somebody’s baby boy at some point...........why does the world have to be such a pile of crap"

Truer words were never spoken.

50 posted on 02/08/2015 11:03:29 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd ("We are condemned by men who are themselves condemned" -- The Most Reverend Marcel Lefebvre)
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To: leapfrog0202

Thank you for your post -

Truly, people, this is a ‘There, but for God...” story.

May you continue to be so lucky that you can spit on those who aren’t...

Or maybe ? May you have a bit of Karma bite you in the nether region and then opine...

(BTW, a LOT of our homeless now are VETS - who can’t find jobs, and have/are still/waiting - 2 years and more - for the VA to process their pension/college money/disability.
Yeah, hope you Karma kicks in)


51 posted on 02/08/2015 11:03:43 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: maine-iac7

Last night’s low temperature in Vancouver BC was 44 Fahrenheit. It has been much the same for the past week.


52 posted on 02/08/2015 11:25:23 PM PST by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: married21; All

Amen -

Guess a lot of folk in here never heard “The Poor, Wayfaring Man”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJGuT5xi718


53 posted on 02/08/2015 11:30:30 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“How is it that we now accept as normal, people sleeping and p***ing and s***ing and God knows what else in the streets????”

Man, you hit a nerve with me. I have a two-story commercial office building in a well-known SF Bay Area city. This week, we have had to clean up both sh!t and pee from both our stairwells. So after the “second occurrence,” I decided to “stake out my own property.” Sure enough, by 10 p.m. I had a guy sleeping on the second floor, so I called the cops to have him arrested (we have the building posted to facilitate the cops doing their duty). Seems as though all the cops on the night shift were busy on a single high-priority call, so they didn’t get around to me until almost 1 a.m. So what did they do? They rousted the guy, issued him a citation, and sent him on his way! Seems as though CA now classifies this kind of intrusion as a misdemeanor and they cannot arrest him. And FWIW, they told me that now breaking into your car in CA is also a misdemeanor with the same procedure, so long as the thief takes $900 or less out of your vehicle.


54 posted on 02/09/2015 12:02:15 AM PST by vette6387
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To: ansel12

It hasn’t approached freezing here on the south west coast of BC in several weeks. As I type, it’s 50.9* in my woodshed, and raining to beat the band.

He’d have been soaked anyways had he not been impeding the doorway. It ain’t that cold. Not hereabouts, anyways.


55 posted on 02/09/2015 12:08:08 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Don W

Wow, I saw the “Toronto Sun” and looked up Toronto instead of Vancouver.

You are right, there it has been in the 30s, 40, and 50s.

Not a lot of difference to the crime of hosing him, his dog, and his clothes and bedding. That is a very serious assault in my mind.


56 posted on 02/09/2015 12:24:27 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Graybeard58

We ran a guy of the back parking pad last week and the next night had a massive pile of human feces on the doorstep. Wish I had poured a bucket of bleach on him.


57 posted on 02/09/2015 12:27:34 AM PST by anton
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To: vette6387

This is why people install sprinklers with random timings.


58 posted on 02/09/2015 1:16:40 AM PST by glorgau
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To: maine-iac7
Thank you for the link.... Brought tears to my eyes..
I wouldn't want to stand before the Lord and have Him tell me I threw a bucket of water on one of his angels... Remember Angles unaware.. God Bless you...
59 posted on 02/09/2015 3:29:51 AM PST by just me (GOD BLESS AMERICA Amen)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

These people who have no means of support, many of whom have mental illness,...When lib lawyers saw a pay day for letting these poor people out of the asylums, they did them no favor.


60 posted on 02/09/2015 3:49:59 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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