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Why We Don’t Have Battery Breakthroughs
Technology Review ^ | February 10, 2015 | Kevin Bullis

Posted on 02/11/2015 5:10:39 AM PST by thackney

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1 posted on 02/11/2015 5:10:39 AM PST by thackney
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2 posted on 02/11/2015 5:15:23 AM PST by Iron Munro
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And, of course, electric vehicles avoid the pollution associated with conventional cars, including emissions of carbon dioxide from burning gasoline.

And, of course, any pollution from the source of electricity necessary to recharge the thing is discounted.

Technology Review, eh?

3 posted on 02/11/2015 5:17:31 AM PST by onedoug
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The key problem is Lithium is a fairly rare element. Recycling will help but demand will in 50 years way outstrip supply.
Battery technology is a good example of “All the easy things have already been done”


4 posted on 02/11/2015 5:17:52 AM PST by Zathras
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Several well-funded Chinese companies are trying to achieve this breakthrough, too. And don’t dismiss them—most as attached to major universities in the Beijing and Shanghai metro areas, places with a lot of very smart people that know things like graphene sheets could become vital in dramatically increasing the storage density of lithium-ion batteries.


5 posted on 02/11/2015 5:18:29 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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Wanting a battery to be capable of storing huge amounts of energy and sustaining multiple charges and discharges doesn’t make it true.

For every chemical process (reaction), there is a specific maximum amount of energy that can be stored and released. To increase the amount, you have to find a new chemical process.


6 posted on 02/11/2015 5:18:52 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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so for all Envia knew, its record-setting battery worked because of a contaminant in a batch of material from one of its suppliers.

Not unlike the transistor. Silicon is an insulator, but add just a tiny bit of arsenic, and you have a semiconductor.

7 posted on 02/11/2015 5:19:49 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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The laws of physics trump political correctness.


8 posted on 02/11/2015 5:19:51 AM PST by allendale
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The laws of physics trump political correctness.


9 posted on 02/11/2015 5:20:24 AM PST by allendale
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I think that technology has asymptotic limits... during the period of growth when it seems exponential, people start to think there is no limit to what technology can produce.

Thus you get stuff like Star Trek, transporters, warp drive, etc. The truth is that EVERYTHING has limits. The only thing that seems to have no limit is human arrogance and stupidity, which is yet another limiting factor on technology.


10 posted on 02/11/2015 5:20:58 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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Envia's impressive battery had been a fluke

Another fluke job.

11 posted on 02/11/2015 5:22:59 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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In the Electrical World, Fluke represents the very best.


12 posted on 02/11/2015 5:29:30 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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“Why We Don’t Have Battery Breakthroughs?”

See: ‘Law of Thermodynamics”.

Given our set conditions on earth ... I.E the basics like gravity, earth rotations and what have you, It takes the same amount of energy to move a given mass no matter what form of energy you use.

So if you’re using electricity generated by fossil fuels then an electric car saves you nothing.


13 posted on 02/11/2015 5:33:06 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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“And, of course, electric vehicles avoid the pollution associated with conventional cars, including emissions of carbon dioxide from burning gasoline.”

Electricity is like government money to leftists. They think both appear out of nowhere.


14 posted on 02/11/2015 5:33:30 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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Ha...

I did not know that.

Guess I fluked up on that one.


15 posted on 02/11/2015 5:33:32 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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And, of course, electric vehicles avoid the pollution associated with conventional cars, including emissions of carbon dioxide from burning gasoline.
And, of course, any pollution from the source of electricity necessary to recharge the thing is discounted.
And (of course, as the writer of the article would say) CO2 emissions are headed straight North whether you magically eliminate emissions by your car (even if you used nuclear or water power to generate the electricity) or not. Because China and India are stamping out coal-fired electric power plants like cookies and - whatever propaganda China may put out about reducing China’s CO2 emissions REAL SOON NOW, that is about like Congress promising to balance the budget ten years hence.

AND, of course, the actual effect, if any, of such emissions on geological-scale weather/climate are speculative since scientists don’t know why the temperature is doing what it is doing right now, let alone what it will do in the future.


16 posted on 02/11/2015 5:33:52 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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I would love to see an EV that would tow a camper or a 23’ foot boat that will carry a family of 6. When Ford do that, I’ll buy it. :-)


17 posted on 02/11/2015 5:34:27 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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I would love to see an EV that would tow a camper or a 23’ foot boat that will carry a family of 6. When Ford do that, I’ll buy it. :-)


18 posted on 02/11/2015 5:35:30 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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What brand of mayonnaise do you think Sandra Fluke uses on her hair?


19 posted on 02/11/2015 5:36:25 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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Bingo! Yes, immutable laws of science. Of course were we in the 23rd century we would have dilithium crystal and matter anti matter chambers spewing forth enough energy to power warp drive. Alas, we are not and don't.
20 posted on 02/11/2015 5:36:26 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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