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Why We Don’t Have Battery Breakthroughs
Technology Review ^ | February 10, 2015 | Kevin Bullis

Posted on 02/11/2015 5:10:39 AM PST by thackney

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To: Senator_Blutarski

Little Richard’s, of course! ;-P


41 posted on 02/11/2015 6:07:59 AM PST by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: Clay Moore
Flux capacitors are needed for that application.


42 posted on 02/11/2015 6:09:05 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Psalm 73

They need to forget all about this electricity thing.

There was a guy back in the ‘70s. He invented a carburetor that enabled a full size car or truck to get 150 mpg! Forget his name...but GM paid him 50 million and bought the rights from him and the plans are stored in a vault somewhere in Detroit.

I know this to be true because his ex-wife’s sister told my Aunt. She told my brother, my brother told my dad and my dad told me. So there really is no doubt.


43 posted on 02/11/2015 6:11:28 AM PST by saleman (?)
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To: Boiler Plate

Di-Lithium crystals were used in the later starships. The earlier ones used Lithium crystals. Unless Wiki got it wrong.


44 posted on 02/11/2015 6:22:46 AM PST by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: The Great RJ
Driving range is just one problem with electric cars.

The government already has a work-around solution to that limitation.

As the government closes off more large tracts of land to habitation and makes it more and more difficult to live in the country and small towns, the population will increasingly be concentrated into cities.

In an urban setting there is less need for private cars and less need for cars with long range capabilities.

So gradually the impact of the limited range of electric vehicles will be mitigated by stuffing us into bird coops stacked on top of each other.

Country living will become a perk reserved for politicians and other wealthy and well connected elites.


45 posted on 02/11/2015 6:27:08 AM PST by Iron Munro
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To: thackney

And, of course, electric vehicles avoid the pollution associated with conventional cars, including emissions of carbon dioxide from burning gasoline.


Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. It’s quite necessary for life to exist.


46 posted on 02/11/2015 6:28:53 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: thackney

If I can’t even throw away a light bulb anymore what happens to all those used up batteries?


47 posted on 02/11/2015 6:29:50 AM PST by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: thackney

They’re working on the wrong problem. It’s the long recharge time not range that is the problem. I wouldn’t mind a 200 mile range limit if I could recharge in 5 minutes.


48 posted on 02/11/2015 6:31:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: thackney

Graphene capacitors.

That, or something like it, is probably the future.


49 posted on 02/11/2015 6:35:14 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: thackney
I think the real problem is trying to make an electric vehicle work like one that has an internal combustion engine.

It MAY eventually be possible but there will need to be a major breakthrough in the way electricity is used and stored to get there.

And that still has not happened even though nutters claim it to be so.

50 posted on 02/11/2015 6:38:41 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: onedoug
And, of course, any pollution from the source of electricity necessary to recharge the thing is discounted.

Well, I guess in the Pacific Northwest, where much (if not all) of the electric power comes from hydro-electric (and let's not forget about Niagara Falls), you could theoretically claim no emissions from fossil fuels.

51 posted on 02/11/2015 6:44:40 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: duckworth

Well if Wiki says it, it must be true. There simply is no better historical future authority. ;<)


52 posted on 02/11/2015 6:47:16 AM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: thackney

How far can we be from warp drives, then?


53 posted on 02/11/2015 6:48:52 AM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: The Great RJ

I would think that something like they do with propane tanks for gas grills could alleviate this somewhat. You have someone remove your battery and trade it for a fully charged one (for a fee, of course). That would likely take longer than a fill up with a gasoline-powered vehicle, but certainly not as long as charging the battery would take.


54 posted on 02/11/2015 6:50:36 AM PST by stremba
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To: thackney
Im thinking that easily swapped battery packs/modules instead of one long range battery... µ Ω
55 posted on 02/11/2015 7:10:27 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: thackney

bump for reference


56 posted on 02/11/2015 7:15:23 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: IYAS9YAS
We all just need to drive Batmobiles

Atomic Batteries to Power....Turbines to Speed

57 posted on 02/11/2015 7:18:18 AM PST by xp38
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To: xp38
And a handy dandy atomic pile to recharge..


58 posted on 02/11/2015 7:24:46 AM PST by xp38
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To: Mad Dawgg
there will need to be a major breakthrough in the way electricity is used and stored

I would say the problem is storage, not how electricity is used. In a vehicle sized motor 50~100 Hp, 95% efficiency is a quality industrial motor commonly manufactured.

http://www.gepowerconversion.com/sites/gepc/files/product/GEA18868%20X%24D%20Ultra661.pdf

Storage issues include charge time and efficiency.

59 posted on 02/11/2015 7:28:53 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ßuddaßudd

I would be concerned about trading my new battery pack for one at the end of its service life.


60 posted on 02/11/2015 7:33:26 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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