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ObamaCare fans: SCOTUS case 'unraveling'
The Hill ^ | Feb. 13. 2015 | Sarah Ferris

Posted on 02/13/2015 7:27:35 AM PST by Maceman

Supporters of ObamaCare think they’ve found a fatal flaw in the GOP-led legal challenge to the healthcare law at the Supreme Court.

Legal experts in favor of the Affordable Care Act say new information unearthed about the plaintiffs in King v. Burwell could derail the case before the justices have a chance to rule.

“The case made by the [Affordable Care Act]’s opponents is unraveling around them,” Brianne Good and Joey Meyer, legal experts from the progressive group Constitutional Accountability Center, wrote in a blog this week. The standing of the four plaintiffs in the case has come under intense media scrutiny, with at least three of the challengers now facing claims they are not personally harmed by the law and therefore do not have standing to sue.

A problem with standing could be trouble for the plaintiffs and the conservative groups leading the lawsuit, including the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which is funding the lawsuit.

Sam Kazman, general counsel for the Competitive Enterprise Institute, said he is “confident of the standing of our plaintiffs.” He added that the government has twice tried to challenge their standing and lost.

Some legal experts see things differently.

Tim Jost, a longtime supporter of the law and a professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law, said recent reports about the plaintiffs from the Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones and other publications could put the case in jeopardy.

“The case has been coming apart at the seams for a long time, and this is one part of that,” Jost said. “I think the main point of all this is that it illustrates that [the conservative groups] happened to troll up four individuals that had some arguable claim that they might have some arguable injury.”

Two of the plaintiffs, David King and Douglas Hurst, are Vietnam veterans who would likely qualify for healthcare through the Department of Veterans Affairs, according to The Wall Street Journal. Additionally, King and another plaintiff, Rose Luck, appear to be exempt from the individual mandate because their incomes are below the law’s threshold.

Three of the plaintiffs, including another named Barbara Levy, are nearly eligible for Medicare, which could make their case moot since ObamaCare would not be available to them.

While the Obama administration hasn’t said whether it will pursue a new challenge to the case based on the latest information, several legal experts said it would be a strong strategy.

“I think they should definitely [challenge standing], without question,” said Allison Hoffman, an assistant law professor at UCLA. “I’m sure they are.”

The case, King v. Burwell, will decide the legality of ObamaCare subsidies in 34 states. Without the billions of dollars provided to help people pay for insurance, the president’s signature healthcare law would have to be fundamentally reshaped.

Most experts said the new evidence against the plaintiffs is likely not damning enough for the case to be dismissed outright. The case could still proceed if at least one of the plaintiffs could argue that ObamaCare would injure him or her.

The plaintiffs’ central argument is that the healthcare law explicitly prohibits subsidies from being distributed in states that did not build their own healthcare exchanges. Right now, the federal aid is being handed out to ObamaCare enrollees who sign up on the federal exchange, HealthCare.gov.

Authors of the law have chalked up the subsidy language to a drafting error, and say it’s clear that Congress intended for the financial aid to be provided to everyone, regardless of whether their state establishes an exchange.

The challengers at the Supreme Court beg to differ, and say it’s clear that subsidies are being distributed illegally and should be stopped.

That legality of the subsidies would still be relevant even if the plaintiff’s credibility were undermined, said Tom Miller, a healthcare policy fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, which helped launch the case.

If the plaintiffs’ standing were questioned, it would only cause a delay — not a dismissal, he said.

“Do we really want to back up the truck on this on a less-than-proven set of factoids from a news story?” Miller said.

Other information that has emerged on the plaintiffs — such as reports that they have called Obama the “anti-Christ” and “the idiot in the White House” — also hasno relevance, legal experts said.

“The unattractiveness of the plaintiffs can raise questions about what a lawsuit is really about and what the stakes of the lawsuit really are,” Nicholas Bagley, a constitutional law and healthcare law expert at the University of Michigan Law School.

“But whether these plaintiffs have ideological convictions or strongly held views about any number of issues is beyond the point,” he added.

The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear oral arguments in King V. Burwell in March, with a ruling expected sometime this summer.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kingvburwell; obamacare; scotus; scotusobamacare; standing
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1 posted on 02/13/2015 7:27:35 AM PST by Maceman
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To: Maceman

so in their minds it’s about standing, not the law?

/sigh


2 posted on 02/13/2015 7:29:12 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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little libs and wishful thinking....


3 posted on 02/13/2015 7:30:36 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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oh lordy. I guess would be ironic if a case about a technicality got thrown out on a technicality


4 posted on 02/13/2015 7:30:39 AM PST by babble-on
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For the progressives, EVERYTHING is about “standing”. In their minds, the ONLY folks who should have standing in a judicial proceeding are progressives.


5 posted on 02/13/2015 7:31:48 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Maceman
...the progressive group Constitutional Accountability Center...

Now there's a knee slapper.

6 posted on 02/13/2015 7:33:02 AM PST by skeeter
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New Rules: no one has standing for anything at any time.


7 posted on 02/13/2015 7:33:13 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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“Most experts said the new evidence against the plaintiffs is likely not damning enough for the case to be dismissed outright. The case could still proceed if at least one of the plaintiffs could argue that ObamaCare would injure him or her. “


grasping at straws...there are millions of middle aged people and non-VA eligible citizens that have been damaged by the law...


8 posted on 02/13/2015 7:33:31 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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I bet none of these experts would advocate nullifying Roe v Wade.

Standing when it suits them. Otherwise, who cares.


9 posted on 02/13/2015 7:34:02 AM PST by ifinnegan
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“ObamaCare fans: SCOTUS case ‘unraveling’”

Sounds familiar, haven’t we heard this before....let’s not count our chickens before they hatch.


10 posted on 02/13/2015 7:34:05 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: Maceman

Based on the current lib understanding of “standing”, shouldn’t Roe v. Wade be thrown out?


11 posted on 02/13/2015 7:35:44 AM PST by chrisser (Silly Wabbit. Trix are for kids. And Cheetos are for Rinos.)
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From the Constitutional Accountability Center's Facebook page.

We've been working with Democratic Leaders Nancy Pelosi and Senator Harry Reid, key congressional leaders, and over 100 state lawmakers to make sure the Supreme Court hears their message: we were *there,* and this conservative lawsuit makes no sense.

Unbiased, impartial, disconnected and "amicus curiae" and all that bullshit. I guess it was this "The Hill" writer's turn in the barrel to carry the water and take one for the team.

12 posted on 02/13/2015 7:36:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Maceman

Liberals are like muslims.

They make grand pronouncements with the intent of making their own reality.


13 posted on 02/13/2015 7:36:50 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: kenmcg

If that is the case, then every lawsuit that a liberal group has filed over the past 20 years should be thrown out and every decision overturned with payments going to the aggrieved.


14 posted on 02/13/2015 7:36:56 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: Maceman

But, more importantly, it depends upon what the meaning of, ‘is’ is!

Hard to decide which I would like to see more: overthrow of Roe v. Wade or 0bamacare.

Both would be nice - pretty sure I won’t see either in my lifetime. :(


15 posted on 02/13/2015 7:38:46 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Blueflag

Standing argument gives Roberts just the excuse he needs to kick this to the curb.


16 posted on 02/13/2015 7:39:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Maceman

Doesn’t matter that two are veterans. VA only covers service related health care issues. Unless you can prove it’s service related you have to have other coverage.


17 posted on 02/13/2015 7:41:00 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Maceman
Rest assured that hordes of illegal aliens will shortly have legal and approved standing in every court in the good U.S.of A.......every time they sue on any thing....and in every venue from their local Tennis Court to the United States Supreme Court.

Leni

18 posted on 02/13/2015 7:42:00 AM PST by MinuteGal
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“the progressive Constitutional Accountability Center”

A classical oxymoron if ever there was one. The people who shred the Constitution daily in their never-ending quest to destroy it hide under the cover of an organization dedicated to making sure we are accountable to it. Leftists dissemble and lie to push the totalitarian agenda — that’s standard MO for commies.


19 posted on 02/13/2015 7:42:49 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: Maceman
When liberals can't win on the facts or merits of a case, they'll lamely attempt to malign the "standing" of their opponent.

Take a look at the facts of the "standing" of their favorite SCOTUS case ... Norma McCorvey (Jane Roe) in the infamous Roe v. Wade. Lying hypocritical bastards.

20 posted on 02/13/2015 7:46:52 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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