Posted on 02/17/2015 11:16:22 AM PST by wagglebee
Abortion has consequences.
The Italian health minister gave a recent interview in which she said Italy is a “dying country.” Why? Because abortion has depleted the European nation of its next generations and caused a massive baby shortage.
While some abortion advocates decry overpopulation, Italy’s birth rate has fallen to its lowest level – 8.4 per 1,000 people — since 1861.
Beatrice Lorenzin, the minister of health, said: “We are at the threshold where people who die are not being replaced by newborns. That means we are a dying country. This situation has enormous implications for every sector: the economy, society, health, pensions, just to give a few examples.”
The number of births per 1,000 people has fallen to just 8.4, down from 38.3 when Italy’s territories and kingdoms were unified a century and a half ago.
In Britain and the United States, the figures are 12 and 13 respectively.
Last year 509,000 babies were born in Italy, 5,000 fewer than in 2013.
The Catholic Herald newspaper commented on the new figures and Lorenzin’s quote:
It may seem a statement of the obvious, but there are fewer children around because people do not want to have children. The children they might have had have been aborted, or they never came to be in the first place because of contraception. Indeed, if you were to factor in all the aborted children, and to imagine for a moment they had lived, then Italy’s population would not be in decline. The invaluable Wikipedia tells us that in 2010 the abortion rate in Italy was 10 per 1000 women of childbearing age. If you look at this table, it seems that around 20 to 25% of all pregnancies in Italy end in abortion, though I am no mathematician, let alone a statistician.
So the minster’s words about the challenge posed by the declining birth rate can also be read as words about the challenge posed by the high abortion rate. And the same would be true, by extension, of contraception. The Telegraph article speaks of 40% of couples not having any children at all.
Unless this trend is reversed, Italy, as it presently exists, is doomed. Again, I am not a statistician, but I do know that trends never continue quite as you expect them to. Italy probably is not a dying nation, but whatever the future, its present is certainly problematic.
All ostensibly “Catholic” countries seem to have this problem. Church teaching is one thing, and what the people are actually doing is something else again.
When I was stationed in Germany many, many years ago, the tax structure and the cost of living made it very hard to afford children. I'm guessing that may also be the case in Italy and most of Europe.
See what happens when you put socialists in charge; they either kill off your country all at once or over generations.
Also there’s the penchant for Italian men to “gravitate” quickly from the marital bed to that of their mistresses. I have watched it first hand in my extended family in Italy.
That’s why it is easy for ISIS to predict that they will conquer Rome.
I have read lately that there is a problem in Italy getting the men to leave their mothers’ homes. They were considering paying young men to move out and get married. It seems the mothers and very possessive and many of the sons like to be taken care of. Being part of an Italian family, I can say that it doesn’t surprise me a bit.
Another unmentioned example would be a Muslim immigration invasion.
They can outbreed you and overburden your social services. - Tom
Their birth rate has fallen below their death rate. Are they importing Muslims, too?
They better turn this crap around fast or the nation will be undone in less than a generation.
Italy keeps on importing Africans and muslims. No shortage of people to fill the ranks. They head straight to the welfare office and create the cesspools they left to their new neighborhoods. There are some neighborhoods there in central Italy, that you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between Mogadishu.
I married into a part Italian family .... I also totally believe it. My half italian MIL is all but banned from our home. She once told me that my husband was not the same anymore — not “the boy she raised....” Since he married me.
Like, yeah .... He grew up and became a man, you crazy woman!”
Sure, but by then the moon-god cult will have taken over and banned wine production, music, dancing and pancetta. In comparison, WWII-era Casablanca will look like Las Vegas.
When newly admitted Permanent Lawful Residents (Green Card), refugees and asylees from all Muslim nations are combined, under Obama the U.S adds to our population a Muslim city the size of St. Petersbugh, Florida (250,000) just about every year.
I remember the late Larry Burkett saying much the same thing a number of years ago.
I heard a priest on the radio state that in about 200 years, there will be no more native Italians left in Italy.
“Something for the “fiscal conservative” pro-abortion libertarians to ponder.”
So what’s the deal with singling out libertarians? Why not Methodists or Episcopaleans? If you look at the statistics, those who identify as “libertarian” are about as likely to say that infanticide should be prohibited as the general population. They’re nowhere near as bad as those who identify as liberal. Not by a long shot.
Qualitatively, I would argue that the libertarians are probably the most fertile ground for evangelizing on this issue that you’re going to find. Liberals are never going to come over to our side on this. Libertarians are increasingly doing so. Keep in mind that from a philosophical perspective, infanticide is a dramatic and basic violation of their NAP. And a lot of folks who are ideological leaders amongst libertarians are themselves openly and vociferously anti infanticide.
Theyre secular Catholics, not religious ones. Plus, the economy in Italy is so horrible, children are viewed more as liability than blessing.
>> The civilized peoples are aborting themselves
Something of a contradiction, but I agree nonetheless.
Top Five Nations With the Highest Abortion Rates
Country Abortion Rate Total Number of Abortions
1 Vietnam 83.3 abortions per 1,000 women 1,520,000
2 Romania 78 abortions per 1,000 women 394,400
3 Cuba 77 abortions per 1,000 women 209,900
4 Russian Federation 68.4 abortions per 1,000 women 2,287,300
5 Belarus 67.5 abortions per 1,000 women 155,700
And more decrepit. Socialism tends to encourage deferred maintenance. Over decades comes collapse.
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