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America, the battle for the family is at your front door. Sitting it out is not an option.
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/17/15 | Claire Chretien

Posted on 02/18/2015 6:58:14 AM PST by wagglebee

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Once marriage is no longer a complementary, conjugal union, then there’s no reason why it must be limited to just two consenting adults.

Many would have you think this battle is about “marriage equality.” It’s not. It’s about redefining marriage altogether.

The left knows this, but the majority of the public will be horrified by the demands that come next.

1 posted on 02/18/2015 6:58:14 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/18/2015 6:58:52 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Gay Marriage is an incomplete expression without the word Destruction.

Their intellectuals admit that sodomite pseudomarriage is intended to destroy marriage.

http://www.sacra-pizza-man.org/who-knew-homosexual-activists-aim-to-destroy-marriage/


3 posted on 02/18/2015 7:06:52 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: wagglebee

Sine they control education, popular culture, and the media, they can redefine anything to mean whatever they say it means. Think about it.


4 posted on 02/18/2015 7:10:53 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: wagglebee

This article demonstrates why the “fiscal only” liberaltarian philosophy is so damning and damaging. If conservatism isn’t a unified whole, it is an impostor.


5 posted on 02/18/2015 7:12:34 AM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: wagglebee

Of course this is all about redefining marriage. But this article doesn’t take things to their logical conclusion. This is one of the earlier steps of social redesign being imposed by the uniparty leviathan.

If you don’t want to be a party to this redesign you’re going to have to leave.


6 posted on 02/18/2015 7:14:05 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (There is only one party, the uniparty, and corruption is its credo.)
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I am staying in the fight. I was at dinner with a good Christian friend in her hometown, I started in on the homosexual marriage subject and she shushed me, as she had a business in this small town and did not want anyone to know that she is against homosexual marriage.

She was intimated enough that the risk of educating ourselves and others to what is coming down the pike from these reprobates, was too much for her, too much risk of losing her business and reputation.

7 posted on 02/18/2015 7:16:06 AM PST by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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Yes. I have always asked the question: so, which word do you want to change the meaning of next? How about the word ‘truth’? Oh wait, truth has come to mean (in Big Media) anything a Democrat says. Leftists are changing words into unrecognizable mish-moshes. But that is the goal.


8 posted on 02/18/2015 7:17:35 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: wagglebee

They used to say you couldn’t legislate morality, but now judges, not legislators, legislate immorality and perversion from the bench. As a result, that which was lawful has become unlawful. The wishes of the majority have been over-ridden by the minority. The judicial process in America is in chaos. The Constitution is no longer the basis for law in America.

This will continue as long as people accept it. When people start to ignore these laws and remove these judges, true justice will return to America.

I applaud judge Moore and others like him for their efforts.


9 posted on 02/18/2015 7:18:40 AM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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As society becomes increasingly secular profane and intolerant of people who believe mothers and fathers matter, ...

There. Fixed it.

10 posted on 02/18/2015 7:19:27 AM PST by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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I am staying in the fight. I was at dinner with a good Christian friend in her hometown, I started in on the homosexual marriage subject and she shushed me, as she had a business in this small town and did not want anyone to know that she is against homosexual marriage.
She was intimated enough that the risk of educating ourselves and others to what is coming down the pike from these reprobates, was too much for her, too much risk of losing her business and reputation.


People everywhere see that leftists will ruin them if they don’t toe the line. And this has been going on since Anita Bryant in the 80’s. There is no one who will stand up with you if you make a stand. There is no cohesive counterforce who will help with legal costs, protection and bills.

Conservatives get the culture they deserve. They put little skin in the game.


11 posted on 02/18/2015 7:22:32 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: thirst4truth

I started to say that’s almost unbelievable, that a Christian would allow herself to be intimidated into silence regarding a sin called an “abomination”, but then I said again, no, it’s not. I wonder what her stance on speaking against abortion is.

Christians in this nation are completely unprepared for the coming-very close now-persecution. The tares will be winnowed from the wheat, with great clarity.


12 posted on 02/18/2015 7:23:30 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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I couldn't agree more.
13 posted on 02/18/2015 7:26:47 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I see no point in defending an institution which fails 41-50% of the time on the first go around and 60-67% the second go around.

Factor in divorce court costs, costs to the system in place, emotional damage, financial damage, and what you’ve got is a social and legal albatross.

If my fellow conservatives want to get up in arms to defend a ruined castle with no walls, go right ahead, but I consider it a waste of time.

Not only that, but it’s none of my business unless freedom of religion is infringed upon.

If homosexuals want to be civilly unioned, then so be it - and may God help them because I guarantee the divorce statistics will be the same for them once it becomes commonplace - probably higher. I will defend any church’s right to refuse to marry a same sex couple, but I will also defend the legal right of any church that wishes to do so, however unchristian it may be.

Defending the American family? Look, that institution has been holding on by a very thin thread for a number of different reasons for decades now - well before this homo broohahah started - mainly because of failed marriages and unwed, single mothers.

Let people do what they’re going to do and let God judge them. It’s not our place to do so.


14 posted on 02/18/2015 7:27:55 AM PST by AxeofCrom
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They used to say you couldn’t legislate morality, but now judges, not legislators, legislate immorality and perversion from the bench.

Actually, the ONLY time people say that is when their particular vice (drugs, prostitution, homosexuality, etc.) is the subject of legislation.

ALL legislation is about morality when you get down to the core. Crimes are an act of immorality whether we agree with them or not.

15 posted on 02/18/2015 7:30:14 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I see no point in defending an institution which fails 41-50% of the time on the first go around and 60-67% the second go around.

So, you don't believe in protecting our rights?

Far fewer than 50% of Americans exercise their right to keep and bear arms, do you think we should stop defending that? Or are you just employing the typical libertarian tactic of allowing the left to get everything they want through inaction?

Factor in divorce court costs, costs to the system in place, emotional damage, financial damage, and what you’ve got is a social and legal albatross.

NOBODY is required to get married. The same can be said about any business venture, do you oppose them?

If my fellow conservatives want to get up in arms to defend a ruined castle with no walls, go right ahead, but I consider it a waste of time.

Conservatives ARE ready to defend our rights, you don't understand that because YOU ARE NOT A CONSERVATIVE.

If homosexuals want to be civilly unioned, then so be it

So you are in favor of it...

nd may God help them because I guarantee the divorce statistics will be the same for them once it becomes commonplace - probably higher.

You really don't get it do you?

I will defend any church’s right to refuse to marry a same sex couple, but I will also defend the legal right of any church that wishes to do so, however unchristian it may be.

How libertarian of you.

Defending the American family? Look, that institution has been holding on by a very thin thread for a number of different reasons for decades now - well before this homo broohahah started - mainly because of failed marriages and unwed, single mothers.

And your solution seems to be abandoning it altogether which is EXACTLY what the left wants.

Let people do what they’re going to do and let God judge them. It’s not our place to do so.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. That's like say let people murder if they want and God can be the judge.

I realize you are new here, but you are clearly in the wrong forum.

16 posted on 02/18/2015 7:38:29 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Excellent reply, waggle.

And I'd add that this is a double attack, in that it is more than about the substance, but about the PROCESS.

If single judges wield the unchecked power to simple wave their wands and nullify laws, that is a terrifying prospect. A bare minority of the Supreme Court was held back from imposing requirements on a private organization (Boy Scouts) which wanted to define qualifications for membership. One more Marxist on the Court would have obliterated freedom. Who says a cadre of like minded Leftists, given critical mass, wouldn't impose same-sex "marriage" on every church?

17 posted on 02/18/2015 7:48:11 AM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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Excellent commentary. One of the more glaring and incorrect statements Axeo made that you didn't pick apart is...

Not only that, but it’s none of my business unless freedom of religion is infringed upon.

Not sure where the sand is Axeo has had his head in, but even a passing knowledge of current event will tell us that bakers across the country have had their religous freedoms trashed by queer friendly laws and court decisions. And its only going to get worse. Can you imagine a time when a minister or priest refuses to perform a queer marriage ceremony and they lose their license as a result?

I can.

18 posted on 02/18/2015 7:50:40 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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Let people do what they’re going to do and let God judge them. It’s not our place to do so.

That's a strawman. This isn't about judging people's souls. That is rightly left to God. This is about recognizing the fact that God has judged homosexual activity to be a sin, and about not being compelled to participate in that sinful act.

19 posted on 02/18/2015 8:11:47 AM PST by BykrBayb (Where there is life, there is hope. - Terri Schiavo ~ Þ)
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It’s about redefining marriage altogether.

Exactly!


20 posted on 02/18/2015 8:21:37 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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