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Judge Rules Against Grandma Florist For Refusing To Service Gay Wedding
The Daily Caller ^ | February 18, 2015 | Casey Harper

Posted on 02/19/2015 6:48:59 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Starwolf

“We can’t hide our social security...”

BTW, keep your social security payment money completely separate from any other money. Don’t mix it with anything.


21 posted on 02/19/2015 7:24:40 PM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Militant radical Sodomites, just like ISIS


22 posted on 02/19/2015 7:25:53 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Doesn’t anyone know how to say “go to hell” anymore??


23 posted on 02/19/2015 7:28:01 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
State Attorney General Bob Furgeson sent out another statement Thursday. In it he said he is prepared to settle the case for just $2,000 plus one dollar for costs and fees. He's instructed his team to create a formal offer letter to present to Arlene's Flowers.

24 posted on 02/19/2015 7:30:31 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If I were a business, I would avoid all of this by giving them the absolute worst product they could imagine, along with terrible customer service.

Eventually it would be self correcting, and nothing like this would happen. After some complaining, I MIGHT give them a refund... lol


25 posted on 02/19/2015 7:32:10 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Sasparilla

Can’t creditors hit Social Security Disability? My mother was threatened with that once. I told her they were probably just trying to scare her, and to ignore them.


26 posted on 02/19/2015 7:36:49 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I suppose none of the super intelligent, highly educated, more than wonderful, legal minds (ON BOTH SIDES) ever read or understood what the 8th Amendment is.

In the vain hope that they know how to comprehend English sentences and in the vainer hope that they might read this, the 8th Amendment says: “EXCESSIVE BAIL SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED, NOR EXCESSIVE FINES IMPOSED, NOR CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS INFLICTED.”


27 posted on 02/19/2015 7:43:18 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hope the judge becomes the new Judge Crater. Look it up folks. An old story but interesting one.


28 posted on 02/19/2015 7:51:57 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 02/19/2015 7:52:19 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Soooooooooooooo, lert’s go another way with this.

The queers want those things?

Never advertise your prices!
Signs saying I refuse the right to serve anyone.
Lastly, any queer-wanted bakery anything, charge them triple!!! Make THEM pay for their nastiness.


30 posted on 02/19/2015 7:54:42 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Good point. Dip them in shit and send them on their way. after all, the scent would be familiar and they would be pleased as shit punch.


31 posted on 02/19/2015 7:59:54 PM PST by billys kid (My beloved is mine and I am thine...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
These people refusing to serve gays are Christians. That's why they're refusing. As Christians, they cannot lie about their availability for work, and they cannot purposely do a bad job. That's against their beliefs just as much as serving a gay wedding is. So all the suggestions of doing a bad job, providing dead flowers, etc. are not options.

One suggestion I read on this very site and I think is perfect. The Christian business owner should tell prospective gay customers "Yes, I will provide flowers, cake, whatever for your gay wedding, BUT, I will donate the profits to an organization that helps people leave the gay lifestyle...and the donation will be made in your name!"

32 posted on 02/19/2015 8:04:00 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: Nea Wood
"Yes, I will provide flowers, cake, whatever for your gay wedding, BUT, I will donate the profits to an organization that helps people leave the gay lifestyle...and the donation will be made in your name!"

That is an AWESOME idea! I don't see how they could legally attack that.

33 posted on 02/19/2015 8:09:17 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How are these gay people able to collect penalties? How were they harmed by not having this one florist provide a service to them? Is she the only one in town? Does she provide a service unique only to her business? What is the rational basis for collecting penalties for a service that a number of other people can provide?

Beyond the fact that this law is unconstitutional, collecting penalties makes no sense.


34 posted on 02/19/2015 8:09:44 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is insane!

What next?
Force accountants to work for drug cartels?

It's one thing to refuse to sell a cake or floral arrangement already on the shelf, to a walk-in customer, based on the customers race, creed etc.

It's entirely another matter to try to force bakers, florists, caterers, photographers, rental equipment staging companies etc to provide specialty custom services to individuals who will never be happy with the created outcome...unless there is a reciprocal force that “all sales and services are final, with no warranty of satisfaction, and no opportunity to lodge any complaints”...

35 posted on 02/19/2015 8:09:56 PM PST by sarasmom (Je suis Charlie!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People in WA State never get anything right. I bet George Washington would like for them to change their name.


36 posted on 02/19/2015 8:10:51 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Girlene

These guys have been customers of Arlene’s Flowers for 9 years. She was not against making bouquets for them. She simply couldn’t help them celebrate their wedding. It’s the wedding part of it that was against her religious beliefs.


37 posted on 02/19/2015 8:26:27 PM PST by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: KoRn

Social security disability has the same rules as regular Social Security payments. Private payments and final settlements under workman’s comp can be different. Check the state laws where those payments orginate to see how much is protected.


38 posted on 02/19/2015 8:26:56 PM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: NTHockey
I suppose none of the super intelligent, highly educated, more than wonderful, legal minds (ON BOTH SIDES) ever read or understood what the 8th Amendment is.

That makes 3 Constitutional amendments which have been violated in this case, all in the name of homosexual rights. The 1st (of course), the 13th (involuntary servitude), and as you point out the 8th. In addition, the Constitution of the state of WA clearly states, SECTION 11 RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Absolute freedom of conscience in all matters of religious sentiment, belief and worship, shall be guaranteed to every individual, and no one shall be molested or disturbed in person or property on account of religion...(Article 1, section 11)

None of it matters in the face of the political elites forcing homosexuality on the nation.

39 posted on 02/19/2015 8:29:18 PM PST by Robwin
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To: Theodore R.

Names mean nothing here in Washington. King County, the largest county in the state, just changed their name from the old guy it was originally named after, to honor Martin Luther King. Now the taxpayers are forced to have their money paid to MLKing’s family for the use of his name. Forget the “honor”, just send them the money.


40 posted on 02/19/2015 8:32:42 PM PST by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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