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Quantum Equations Suggest Big Bang Never Happened
iflscience ^ | February 10, 2015 | Stephen Luntz

Posted on 02/26/2015 11:50:10 AM PST by Mount Athos

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To: Gator113

It’s alright with me if they refine their theories over time, I fully understand that. I have an engineering degree and therefore “some” exposure to “science”, to say the least.

What I object to is when they politicize “science” and use it as a bludgeon to make everyone behave and consume in the manner that they deem “best”.


61 posted on 02/26/2015 2:05:46 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SampleMan

Hmmm, the article mentions gravitons, and a condensate. Makes me wonder if they’re bringing up the old fashioned concept called aether. Supposedly Einstein couldn’t get his relativity theory to work with it, so he just left it out.


62 posted on 02/26/2015 2:06:30 PM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: MrB

Being liberal isn’t being right, it’s about FEELING righteous that you are doing SOMETHING. Even it turns out to be not only ineffective, but destructive.


63 posted on 02/26/2015 2:08:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: zeugma

Quantum entanglement is what’s prompting it.


64 posted on 02/26/2015 2:20:18 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Mount Athos

An atheist will tell you that the universe just happened to happen. Voila!


65 posted on 02/26/2015 2:27:01 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: RinaseaofDs

I always thought the Old Testament pretty neatly described a big bang creation of the universe.


66 posted on 02/26/2015 2:34:10 PM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016 (for 16 years of conservative bliss))
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To: Mount Athos

BB should have been rejected on day one on purely philosophical grounds; having all the mass of the universe concentrated to a point would be the mother of all black holes and nothing would ever “bang” its way out of that. That’s before you even get to Halton Arp and the demise of the idea of an expanding universe altogether of course...


67 posted on 02/26/2015 3:04:38 PM PST by leopardseal
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To: MrB

“.........politicize “science” and use it as a bludgeon to make everyone behave and consume in the manner that they deem “best”.”

Exactly.


68 posted on 02/26/2015 3:10:27 PM PST by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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To: zeugma

Nope.

Don’t really want to be.

I’m not at all certain that the plasma physics folks are right. I just think that the way the cosmologists keep having to invent more and more kludges to make their numbers work suggests that they’re missing something fundamental.

Remember Plato and his epicycles and his epicycles on epicycles. And Copernicus wasn’t any better. He still had circles and epicycles and epicycles. Then Kepler said ellipse, and suddenly everything was simple and elegant.

I have no expectation that the plasma physicists will be proven right. But I’m convinced that there’s a much simpler answer out there, and once someone finds it, everyone is going to be wondering why they missed it.


69 posted on 02/26/2015 3:15:24 PM PST by jdege
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To: Mr. K

Gospel of John finishes what the Old Testament starts.

In the beginning was the Word.

So far, the real science has remained consistent with Christianity in every extent that we have the ability to evaluate.

Carbon 14 dating, apparently, is having its issues as an accurate way of dating things.

The more we are sure of something, the more likely it seems we find out our first appreciation of things was off somehow.


70 posted on 02/26/2015 10:43:26 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Mount Athos

Forget this quibbling over minor things and concentrate on more important questions like how is it possible for bumble bees to fly?


71 posted on 02/27/2015 4:40:29 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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Thanks rdl6989. The whole universe was not in a hot, dense state 14 billion years ago...

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72 posted on 02/27/2015 5:51:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raychaudhuri_equation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amal_Kumar_Raychaudhuri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Landau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm
http://www.fdavidpeat.com/interviews/bohm.htm
http://www.david-bohm.net/
Wholeness and the Implicate Order by David Bohm
http://www.amazon.com/Wholeness-Implicate-Order-David-Bohm/dp/0415289793


73 posted on 02/27/2015 6:00:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Mount Athos

We are obviously in the midst of an explosion.

If you roll the explosion back, continuously, don’t you reach a point where the explosion started?

This new “theory” doesn’t seem to even address that simple but obvious question.


74 posted on 02/27/2015 8:57:10 AM PST by samtheman
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