Posted on 03/01/2015 5:58:20 PM PST by Right-wing Librarian
FreeKentHovind.com is reporting that Mr. Hovind was moved to an isolation cell yesterday (7 by 9 cell shared by 2 people) in Santa Rosa County Jail.
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I’ve actually met Hovind on a few occasions, discussed a variety of ideas with him, heard him speak perhaps a dozen times in the 90s, attended a few debates where he was quite brilliant in going up against evolution supporting professors and so forth. He always came across as an extremely engaged positive Christian, passionate about what he was doing and highly knowledgeable. When I look back at the last ten years in light of my impressions of the man, it seems completely bizarre that he is anywhere near a prison. Without knowing all the details about what the government’s case was, it’s hard to comment but it just doesn’t pass the smell test in light of knowing something about the guy.
“What was his crime??”
We don’t know, the e-mails were lost.
Chuck Baldwin was talking about this guy not to long ago.
Example #1.
His crime seems to be that he is a white man that didn’t pay his taxes. Why is Sharpton and Jackson and the Clintons still walking around free?
Ya, something an athiest democrat would be applauded for if performed in the duties of furthering the cause...
I'd like to know who, but you can count me out, at any rate.
I've debated Henry Morris, Walter Brown, and Duane Gish, although it's been a while now. I've still got the poster for the first one, which has an adaptation of my statement to the organizer, "Although I am in profound disagreement with the aims of today's Creationist movement, I recognize their fundamental right to hold and express their opinions."
That was in in 1986, dear friends!
He IS a martyr, no doubt, to conscience, which is the only conceivable motive for his whackadoodle enterprise.
He should have changed his name to Sanchez and told his students that the great serpent Kuklakhan created the world by throwing it up or whatever the mayan creation myth is, then he would be applauded for teaching diverse cultural stuff...
[ Should’nt Al Sharpton and many of the left wing politicians be in jail for the very exact same crime?
Look up “anarcho-tyranny” and “Managerial State” on Wikipedia.
You’ll begin to understand what’s going on. ]
When the rule of law has broken down, no amount of life support can hold it from it’s spiral.
Smell test?
Yup, he stinks pretty bad.
He’s sitting in federal prison because he was convicted of 12 counts of failing to file quarterly payroll tax returns and 45 counts of (cash) structuring. Plus obstructing tax laws. He owes 400+K of federal taxes of various types.
Those are facts. Doesn’t matter whether anything passes any “smell test” or not.
His upcoming trial has to do with trying to interfere with the collection of what he owes.
Most people understand the first rule of holes — when you’re in one, stop digging.
Hovind, apparently not being very bright, doesn’t seem to grasp that simple concept.
After being whacked with 10 years, he then proceeds to cause stuff to be filed which might cloud the title on nine properties that are in the process of being seized to pay his tax debts, in direct violation of a court order not to do any such thing.
That’s called mail fraud and conspiracy to commit mail fraud, not to mention criminal contempt of court. More federal felonies.
Which is why he will probably spend many more years in prison.
In fact, the federal sentencing guidelines suggest that, if convicted on this batch of charges, the additional time to be served could be as much as 30 years. Not to mention that the feds probably haven’t exhausted the stack of stuff he could be criminally charged with. At the rate he’s digging his hole, he might be lucky to get out of prison while he’s still alive.
See? It’s not at all hard to comment when you know a few facts about the topic at hand.
Which parts of the Constitution did Kent Hovind violate?
Who (other than you) has said anything at all about the Constitution?
This dunce was convicted of failing to file quarterly employer tax returns, not to mention failing to withhold and timely pay over to the feds the appropriate income and FICA taxes. You know, form 941. Every employer in the country is required to file them. And pay the tax due. Promptly.
He’s not some penny-ante tax cheat, his cheating on employee taxes that he never withheld or paid over is why he owes over 400K.
He compounded his problem by paying his employees in cash and by structuring the withdrawals of the cash used to pay those employees so as to avoid reporting of any cash withdrawals.
In short, the guy is nothing but a tax cheat who tried to hide his tax liabilities. Apparently because he thinks he’s special and doesn’t have to follow well-settled tax or other laws.
Now, his latest problem is attempting (for no valid reason) to cloud the titles on his seized properties and contempt of federal court.
Once his upcoming trial is over, there may yet be another one in his future. Why? It’s a pretty good bet that he didn’t file personal income tax returns for a number of years, and if, as is likely, there hasn’t yet been a formal tax assessment made for those years, the statute of limitations for any criminal liability for failure to file and/or pay and/or evasion for those years hasn’t even started to run.
On this entire thread, there is no defense of this idiot, only whining about Sh!tlery and Sharpton and Lerner and Koskinen. There is no defense because none is possible. As for the assorted Dem tax cheats and other miscellaneous Dem criminals, I quite agree that they too belong in federal prison and it couldn’t happen soon enough, but they’ve got absolutely nothing to do with this particular tax cheat.
I really don’t know why anyone would waste even a minute on this convicted fraud and huckster.
I've been in business for over 35 years. You mess around on FICA taxes and withholding when you are an employer, the men in dark suits will descend on you like the plagues of Egypt.
You do not welch on Uncle Sam's vig unless you are willing to suffer a mighty wrath...
You are correct.
If discovered, the IRS will jump on not just the owner(s,) but also any employee responsible for preparing/filing/paying 941s and the associated taxes. They, like an owner, are personally liable for any unpaid amounts. Oops.
There are a number of tax-protestor cases where the “bookkeeper” also found their butt in a sling because their idiot employer wanted to play games. See Simkanin. His bookkeeper only avoided liability by cooperating and testifying about the scheme. Simkanin? He died in federal prison.
Like you, I’ve signed and filed enough 941s to choke a couple of good-sized horses over the last 40 years. They are no joke.
Small amounts due? Monthly deposits. Pay up. Larger amounts? Essentially five business days. Pay up. You paid your employees, now pay us the withheld amounts you didn’t pay them. Don’t/can’t pay? We can and will attack every single asset you have. And almost nothing is exempt from that attack.
I used to run across small business people who thought it was a great way to float money for a while. A very bad idea. Pay your 941 taxes first, even before the rent on your business space.
If you’re operating as a corp or LLC, your landlord generally can’t sue you personally, but the IRS (via the DoJ) can and will. Most of those people wound up closing after the IRS figured out that they weren’t being paid and weren’t likely to be paid.
Hovind is a sort of tax-protestor — wrapped up in a bunch of religious hokus-pokus — but with even fewer active brain cells than most of that generally brain-dead group. His magic words don’t work any better than the legal incantations of the rest of the delusional TPs.
He reminds me of Irwin Schiff (three-time federal tax convict) who might die in federal prison. Irwin is 87 with a release date that will make him 89 or 90.
Or maybe he’ll get out at 90 and do something else stupid that will earn him his 4th stretch of federal prison time for tax offenses. Hey, I’ll be out when I’m 110! Keep fighting, tax patriots, never mind that my theories are total nonsense!
And Ed and Elaine Brown, both of whom are two-time federal tax convicts with nasty weapons charges for good measure and who will certainly die in federal prison. Ed is 72 with a release date making him age 102, Elaine is 74 with a release date making her age 101.
Their forfeited properties, which are nominally worth 500K+ can’t be sold at auction because nobody is dumb enough to bid on stuff that can’t be inspected and may have bombs and other stuff on them. The sort of stuff where it’s impossible to find someone willing to do demolition. Good move, Ed. Pure genius. Yeah, you won. Think about that as you rot in prison.
As Hovind contemplates his upcoming trial and any possible future trials, he might be well advised to remember that there is no federal parole — you serve 85% of the time if you behave and up to 100% if you don’t.
Of course, he already knows this from serving his current 10-year sentence. Yet, that hasn’t stopped him from acting on ways to pile up even more years.
The idiocy is truly astounding.
This was Free Republic the last time I checked, not Free Government. The Constitution was supposedly designed to keep the government off the backs of the people. I keep this concept in mind whenever there is a dispute between the government and the people.
Oh, I see.
Any time some tax evader gets held to account, it’s a matter of keeping the government “off the backs of the people.”
Wow. Who knew that merely invoking “the Constitution” is a free pass to endless criminal activity without consequence?
Obviously you won’t mind at all if I evade a million or two in taxes, right?
All against laws duly passed by a Constitutionally designated legislature, signed by a Constitutionally designated executive and upheld by Constitutionally designated courts.
What could be simpler? Get that darned Constitutional government off my back, I’ve got cheating and evading to do!
Bravo! You make really great nonsense arguments. They certainly suit my purposes as a potential tax cheater and evader. With myriad other possibilities.
It’s good to know that you’re an anarchist in favor of all manner of cheating and illegality. Who needs those silly Constitutionally enacted laws? They’re just so many words on paper. I’m “people.” Get that stuff “off my back.”
It must be great good fun to be an anarchist like you. Where do I sign up for your insipid philosophy? Do I have to subscribe to some theory that people and dinosaurs both existed 6,000 years ago? Or, can I go for something a little less goofy?
Meanwhile, I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to post an actual defense of tax evasion done in the name of religion or anything else. Why? Because no such defense exists.
### Anti-scumbag: Oh, I see. Any time some tax evader gets held to account, it’s a matter of keeping the government “off the backs of the people.”###
Are there any regulations webbed within the 74,000 pages of tax code you disagree with? If so, what are you going to do about it? Vote republican?
### Anti-scumbag: Wow. Who knew that merely invoking “the Constitution” is a free pass to endless criminal activity without consequence? ###
Was the adoption of the 16th amendment by the will of the people, or by the criminal shenanigans of tyrannical psychopaths? The politically savvy “anti-scumbags” of the world understand the system. What we need is someway to protect the less political savvy from the countless rules and regulations implemented by the politically savvy: implemented for no other reason than to control the people, while freeing the government from the chains of the constitution. The original purpose of the constitution was to protect the people from the government, not the other way around.
### Anti-scumbag: Obviously you won’t mind at all if I evade a million or two in taxes, right?###
Why should I? It wouldn’t hurt me.
### Anti-scumbag: All against laws duly passed by a Constitutionally designated legislature, signed by a Constitutionally designated executive and upheld by Constitutionally designated courts. ###
A Constitutionally-designated legislature is bound by the chains of the Constitution, as are Constitutionally-designated executive and judicial branches. Usurpation is tyranny.
### Anti-scumbag: What could be simpler? Get that darned Constitutional government off my back, I’ve got cheating and evading to do! ###
Constitutional government? That dream went out the window with Marbury vs. Madison.
### Anti-scumbag: Bravo! You make really great nonsense arguments. They certainly suit my purposes as a potential tax cheater and evader. With myriad other possibilities. ###
You, like most Freepers, are too politically savvy to cheat on your taxes.
### Anti-scumbag: It’s good to know that you’re an anarchist in favor of all manner of cheating and illegality. Who needs those silly Constitutionally enacted laws? They’re just so many words on paper. I’m “people.” Get that stuff “off my back.” ###
Reader take note: to the modern government apologist there is no difference between anarchy and the support of the limited government found in the constitution. Government apologists believe the government can “constitutionally” do anything it pleases.
### Anti-scumbag: It must be great good fun to be an anarchist like you. Where do I sign up for your insipid philosophy? Do I have to subscribe to some theory that people and dinosaurs both existed 6,000 years ago? Or, can I go for something a little less goofy? ###
Is this now a theological discussion? I thought this was a political issue. But now that you mentioned it, do you despise Hovind because of his theology? The leftists certainly do.
### Anti-scumbag: Meanwhile, I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to post an actual defense of tax evasion done in the name of religion or anything else. Why? Because no such defense exists. ###
I am not politically connected, so I pay my taxes, early and often. But I do have profound respect for the Founding Fathers (the scumbags of their day in the eyes of the Loyalists) who rebelled against the most powerful government on earth and their lawfully-implemented taxes.
Hovind can believe whatever ridiculous things he wants, I couldn’t care less.
As for the Founders, you’ll recall there was this little thing about taxation without representation.
But, good job of throwing up a blizzard of straw men. What else can you do when you can’t actually defend what amounts to a common, garden variety tax criminal.
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